Recent ABF 16v threads regarding power

[F17BAD]

I liked the operator comment:

Heavy smoke on full load. Rings or engine refurb required. Better than a modified 8v in its illness!

 

i did smile at that too 

[Len]

You're almost putting me off Glenn!

Hope you get your enthusiasm back!

I will still be heading down the same road.

its alot of money and effort for not a HUGE gain.. TURBO power - even if you keep the ABF, Turbo option is gonna give you more power and you can still prob do it for much less than what he had to spend. think Russ did his ABF Turbo for around 3k and he has around 250 BHP

YES!

For pure driving pleasure N/A is much better!
In my book turbo is just plain cheating!
Also in my vast experience of driving fast - 40 years - I prefer a straight N/A engine.

[tweed]

You're almost putting me off Glenn!

Hope you get your enthusiasm back!

I will still be heading down the same road.

its alot of money and effort for not a HUGE gain.. TURBO power - even if you keep the ABF, Turbo option is gonna give you more power and you can still prob do it for much less than what he had to spend. think Russ did his ABF Turbo for around 3k and he has around 250 BHP

YES!

For pure driving pleasure N/A is much better!
In my book turbo is just plain cheating!
Also in my vast experience of driving fast - 40 years - I prefer a straight N/A engine.

really? is that just a golf or any car? I've just drove a nissan r35 gtr and I'm glad it had two turbos  put a huge smile on my face.

[F17BAD]

yeah thats nonsense, iv always had N/A and used to think same, old RS turbos used to come on boost late then run out of boost etc, my lil swift GTI would whistle on past them.

These days tho its a different ball game, the engine in mine comes on boost fast and it just keeps going, its bloody brilliant hahaha and i love it.. it was same in the mapped GTTDI i had

i just think spending all that money to try get close to 200hp is to much for too little   then to still get shown up at the lights buy a moded 20vt or even worse a Clio cup etc....

[Misky]

yeah thats nonsense, iv always had N/A and used to think same, old RS turbos used to come on boost late then run out of boost etc, my lil swift GTI would whistle on past them.

These days tho its a different ball game, the engine in mine comes on boost fast and it just keeps going, its bloody brilliant hahaha and i love it.. it was same in the mapped GTTDI i had

i just think spending all that money to try get close to 200hp is to much for too little   then to still get shown up at the lights buy a moded 20vt or even worse a Clio cup etc....

Think your missing the point! 

Its his hobby like he said! Its trying to achieve what most others havent.
Anyone can slap a turbo on but there isnt that much sense of achievement or bragging rights.

[F17BAD]

Anyone can slap a turbo on but there isnt that much sense of achievement or bragging rights.

Really

think you will find "slapping a Turbo on" is much more effort than you seem to think!

Sure someone will be on here to back this up too

[Wayne]

yeah thats nonsense, iv always had N/A and used to think same, old RS turbos used to come on boost late then run out of boost etc, my lil swift GTI would whistle on past them.

These days tho its a different ball game, the engine in mine comes on boost fast and it just keeps going, its bloody brilliant hahaha and i love it.. it was same in the mapped GTTDI i had

i just think spending all that money to try get close to 200hp is to much for too little   then to still get shown up at the lights buy a moded 20vt or even worse a Clio cup etc....

Spot on, could not have put it better

Anyone can slap a turbo on but there isnt that much sense of achievement or bragging rights.

Really

think you will find "slapping a Turbo on" is much more effort than you seem to think!

Sure someone will be on here to back this up too

 not easy or cheap to fit a turbo.

[Agreeable Slick]

I think the point here is that there are different mind sets.

There are those that like to tinker and see what a mechanical engine is capable of. Thus they continue to try different things to see just how much difference it makes.

Then there are those who are just after the power gains without any of the mechanical emphasis. I.E. 1.8T transplants which just need a software mod and a couple of other tweeks to hit the big numbers. FMIC, KO4, DV etc. (unless of course you go for really big power then the mechanicals come in to it and the costs begin to spiral)

Different strokes for different folks. Saying one is completely different to the other is like chalk and cheese, but it's personal hobbies and interests that dictate how each of us view the changes we want to do.

[Misky]

Anyone can slap a turbo on but there isnt that much sense of achievement or bragging rights.

Really

think you will find "slapping a Turbo on" is much more effort than you seem to think!

Sure someone will be on here to back this up too

Yeh well guess its harder than 'slapping' an S3 engine in  
I have modified most of of my cars engines apart from the  current golf.
So i know what work is involved in turbo charging cars.  Your still missing the point though ....  

A n/a engine is harder to achieve extra bhp without the use of forced induction which im sure we all agree and because of that it deserves more respect than the guy who has just changed his engine or added a turbo onto it.

this is by no means a digg or insult to any hard work or effort which im sure has gone into peoples builds

[F17BAD]

i hear you although the point i was making was, I think speanding what Ess Three has (almost 8k) and for that he has 200 bhp approx.. seems an expensive hobbie to me and not massive gains. great project granted.. Just for that money id want more bang for my buck

On a side note, its not easy adding turbos, and it was not easy to "slap" the S3 engine in mine  (if only it was  )