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Offline thatwillis

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Cheap wide angle lenses?
« on: 07 August 2011, 14:47 »
So i've wanted a wide angle/fish eye lense for a while (yeah I'm not sure of the difference) I keep finding these cheap versions on ebay does anyone have any experience with them?

for 20quid its almost just worth a try i think. Also with a super macro feature too. Its only gonna be used for a bit of fun really.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/40X-Wide-Fisheye-Macro-Lens-NIKON-D5000-D3100-D40x-/220675831797?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item33614df7f5

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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #1 on: 07 August 2011, 16:55 »
you get what you pay for the optical quality is going to be be rubbish.

from photo.net

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Fisheye lenses aren't "fully corrected," and, as a consequence, straight lines that don't pass through the optical center of the lens end up being distorted into a curve (barrel style). In the extreme, a fisheye lens can give a full circular view, encompassing the full field in front of the lens. In less extreme examples, like Canon's EOS EF 15mm fisheye, a full circular view is not achieved.

If you compare the frame you get with the 15mm EOS EF fisheye and the frame you get with the 14mm EOS EF L series "more or less fully corrected" wide angle, you can see some significant differences. The apparant differences are dependent on the subject, and how well you maintain the film plane parallel to the subject plane.

You can get what seem to be fisheye like effects out of the EOS EF 17-35 L series zoom, and it is attributed to gross barrel distortion at 17mm - but actually, when you use this lens, you eventually figure out that if you are careful to allign the film plane so that it is really parallel to the subject plane, the barrel distortion can be barely perceptable with many subjects. I know that's not what you asked, but it is probably the reason why so many working pros like the 17-35L, while so many magazine lens test jockies "turn up their eyebrows at the high barrel distortion test results."

Cheers.

couple of examples;

this is from my nikkor 10.5mm fish eye


Berliner Mauer by The Ridg, on Flickr

this is also from my 10.5 fish eye, but the distortion has been corrected (losing some of the edge)


From the top by The Ridg, on Flickr

this is from the Nikkor 10-24mm (not mine)



note the distortion on the door

corrected



I'd recommend the 10.5mm fish eye, it's not as versatile as a wide angle, but somestuff you can't do with a wide angle that you can with a fish eye, so depends what you want.

hope this helps

Offline DubFan

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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #2 on: 07 August 2011, 17:10 »
Ridg, is that the 10.5mm fish eye that costs £500 ish  ? If so that's pretty expensive just for a bit of fun.

I quite fancy a wide angle lens at the moment, but not so fussed about fisheye unless it's cheap.


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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #3 on: 07 August 2011, 17:54 »
Ridg, is that the 10.5mm fish eye that costs £500 ish  ? If so that's pretty expensive just for a bit of fun.

I quite fancy a wide angle lens at the moment, but not so fussed about fisheye unless it's cheap.

it is indeed, I wouldn't say it's just a fun lens though, as i've also made the following with it;


_DSC2454 by The Ridg, on Flickr


Palace of Culture and Science, Warsaw by The Ridg, on Flickr


The British Museum - Great Court by The Ridg, on Flickr


Rochester Cathedral 360 by The Ridg, on Flickr

NB the last two where shot using;

http://www.manfrotto.com/product/8374.31708.72048.0.0/303SPH/_/Multi-row_Panoramic_Head

so could have been done with any lens, using a fish eye just means less shots to get the overlap

the Tokina 11-16mm is meant to be the best for cheap alternatives, the problem is wide angle lenses are expensive.

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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #4 on: 07 August 2011, 22:25 »
Love my 10-20mm lens.

Worth every penny. 

Is the 10.5 a prime?
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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #5 on: 08 August 2011, 09:06 »
Is the 10.5 a prime?

yes, it also has a slot for taking gel filters in the rear, meaning you can use any gel once you've cut it to shape.

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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #6 on: 08 August 2011, 14:34 »
love my sigma 10 -20 think you can get them for about £360 :)

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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #7 on: 10 August 2011, 20:26 »
ohh not a cheap bit of fun then  :laugh: Meh i think i will try a cheap one and see what happens.

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Re: Cheap wide angle lenses?
« Reply #8 on: 10 August 2011, 20:31 »
i have a cheap screw on wide angle filter and its not too bad really, does what it says on the tin. cant comment on the fish eye one though