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Offline DOA

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Re: oooo yes!!!
« Reply #30 on: 05 August 2011, 14:49 »
Is it really any different to 'going to war' that everyone so strongly supports.. ?

Yes, it is and not everyone supports going to war or even having a full army operating in the roles they currently do.


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« Reply #31 on: 05 August 2011, 15:07 »
Morally I don't think I could vote in favour for the death penalty. Taking a life, no matter what the crime is not the way forward.

agree...


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« Reply #32 on: 05 August 2011, 16:23 »
I want it back, even if that be through sheer ignorance. Still think that if they are 100% guilty of an horrific crime, they deserve to die.

Let's just get this clear: You want to lower yourself to the level of a killer on some sort of vengeful trip?

And you're happy for the state to kill you, are you?

I completely respect yours and everyone elses comments but, Yes. An eye for an eye.

Is it really any different to 'going to war' that everyone so strongly supports.. ?

Completely agree Wherry. A miserable life is no punishment for what some of these people have done.

Agreed they must be 100% guilty.

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« Reply #33 on: 05 August 2011, 16:30 »
Another twist on the opinions that are against the death penalty....

What about a killer etc knowing full well that 'if I commit this crime and get caught, I WILL face the death penalty'.

They KNOW it will be the punishment, yet they proceed with the crime?
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« Reply #34 on: 05 August 2011, 19:54 »
Another twist on the opinions that are for the death penalty....

What if you are falsely accused and evidence is planted so you appear '100% guilty' of murder and you're convicted of murder and killed by the state.

Two years later the falsification is uncovered and you're acquitted.

You're still dead though.

This is you, not 'the evil killer' because 'the evil killer' is you, not some mystical figure.
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« Reply #35 on: 05 August 2011, 20:24 »

I remember another news thing like this about us having to pay for our bins getting emptied



We already do pay for it with council tax.
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« Reply #36 on: 05 August 2011, 22:12 »
Making prison harder an more profitable would be a step in the right direction.

Sweat shops staffed entirely by unpaid prisoners.

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« Reply #37 on: 05 August 2011, 22:24 »
IF the law was changed so that if you were caught speeding, you would lose your licence forever.

Would you risk speeding?



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« Reply #38 on: 05 August 2011, 22:39 »
IF the law was changed so that if you were caught speeding, you would lose your licence forever.

Would you risk speeding?


Yes, this happened to me, I was fortunate enough to prove in a retrial that I was innocent and had my conviction overturned and my licence reinstated.

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« Reply #39 on: 05 August 2011, 23:13 »
IF the law was changed so that if you were caught speeding, you would lose your licence forever.

Would you risk speeding?


Yes, this happened to me, I was fortunate enough to prove in a retrial that I was innocent and had my conviction overturned and my licence reinstated.

My question was somewhat allegorical to highlight something in this debate, but well done on your appeal.  :smiley:



Death Penalty.  Not so much a punishment as a deterrent?

Purpose of prison?

1. Punishment.
2. Protection of the innocent.
3. Rehabilitation.

If all of the above are not satisfied, then isn't death the optimum solution?

Granted there were a few people who were hanged who may have been "not guilty", but, forensic science etc. has come a long way since then.

A loss of liberty is not the fearsome prospect it once was.  A criminal is no longer imprisoned like the Count of Monte Cristo.  No. They have 3 square meals a day, TV and playstations, access to drugs/sex and all in all a pretty cushy time.  AND, they get paid for any work they do.  It is well documented about the instances of prisoners coming out a better criminal than when they went in.

No state want's to kill its citizens. So an awful deterrent is preferable.

e.g.

Nuclear weapons, bright yellow crook locks.   :rolleyes:

Today, there is NO deterrent.

Criminals know they will probably serve only half of their term, and that served in prison will be fairly easy.  They might even come out a better criminal.

God bless The Human Rights Act.

Have your watched Supernanny?

Image we all had a naughty step.  This country would be a far safer place.