Landlords (groan!)....advice needed

[jmsheahan]

no inventory no cry



man up... it happens to all students. one day when you are big and own a property you can do the same to some dirty little student. balance is restored

Thanks for all the replies (especially Elvi) - will have a good read through, some good advice. No inventory was done, nothing was signed. I know it happens to all students however we are talking £245 (+£70) over a £30 drawer here - if I manned up any more I'd be decking him one (something I'm trying extremely hard not too!)

[MrBounce]

I had a nightmare landlord when I was at University. 9 of us went to rent a house for the 2nd year and he asked us for post-dated cheques for each months' rent as well as the deposit. (It was 1993) I did not have my cheque book with me at the time (waiting for a new one from the bank which they had sent to my home address) so the Landlord said I could drop them round at a later date. I then failed my exams and did not go back.

I hadn't signed anything so I don't believe he had any rights over me. He then sent me 2 threatening letters so I wrote one back saying that I had no money, was out of a job and had no likely prospect of money in the near future. I suggested that if he wanted to take me to court he should go ahead as he would win nothing but a day out in court. Never heard from him again.

I phoned the accommodation office at the University asking them to advertise the room and when told who the Landlord was they said I had had a lucky escape as he was a nasty thug of a man who never kept his houses in order. Lucky escape I guess...  

[The Mighty Elvi]

Send the letter, claim back all the money you spent so far.

Dodgy Landlords!  

[R32UK]

As a landlord myself, i take photographic evidence as this is always best. The flats i have are always newly refurbished and I expect to get them back in the same condition.... if i dont, I am digging into that bond, plain and simple.


Sounds like your flat was not new to start with so its a grey area. Just hope he doesnt have pictures from when it was. lesson learnt anyway 

[The Mighty Elvi]

Sounds like your flat was not new to start with so its a grey area. Just hope he doesnt have pictures from when it was. lesson learnt anyway 

Again, no.  No grey area here.  If his landlord has not taken an inventory he has no right to withold/use the bond for repairs.

The law is quite clear.

[R32UK]

Sounds like your flat was not new to start with so its a grey area. Just hope he doesnt have pictures from when it was. lesson learnt anyway 

Again, no.  No grey area here.  If his landlord has not taken an inventory he has no right to withold/use the bond for repairs.

The law is quite clear.

Re-read what i wrote.... 

the grey area comes usually when you talk about the condition of things. I certainly wouldnt have listed "working freezer draw". However if it comes to move out time then I am going to be deducting cash if its broken. Inventory or no inventory there is already an admission of guilt here.

[The Mighty Elvi]

Again, wrong.

He said, and I quote:

He's accusing myself and one other tenant of breaking two freezer drawers. We didn't however to shut him up we said we'd pay for replacements - however he's decided he wants us to sort it. As he has some piece of crap freezer, I spend 2 days tracing down said drawers and finally get them ordered, £70 out of pocket.

So no admission there. 

The chap is young and clearly not up to speed with his rights in respect to his tennancy agreement, hence his offer to replace the shelves as the path of least resistance. But certainly no admission of guilt.

But this is all irrelevant. Because, as I have stated above, He has NO inventory.  He could have smashed up the freezer with a lump hammer, and still, the landlord would have no comeback.

Taking pictures means nothing without an inventory signed by both landlord and tennant.

As you said, you're a landlord yourself. Yet you don't seem to know these things!

I'd be happy to get Bert and Ernie to spell it out for you if you still don't understand.

[R32UK]

you can get bern and ernie to suck you off if you like... i always collect for damages.


I look forward to seeing how this turns out. there is usually two sides to every story and seldom are students the innocent party (been there done that)

as for the freezer draws.. i imagine they broke themselves. I know for a fact they happen to get a little wild whilst chilling out 


p.s. you would be surprised how many student sign up to their tenancy agreements without even noticing the inventory attached. You may want to just check and be sure he doesnt, and that you havent signed anything without reading... a common student error.

[The Mighty Elvi]

You clearly are an imbecile!

If the OP did not sign/or there was not, an inventory:

THE LANDLORD CANNOT WITHOLD THE DEPOSIT OR DEDUCT FOR DAMAGES

No ifs, no buts. The law is crystal clear.

If YOU do this, you are an irresponsible landlord and are breaking the law.

End of.

[R32UK]

You clearly are an imbecile!

If the OP did not sign/or there was not, an inventory:

THE LANDLORD CANNOT WITHOLD THE DEPOSIT OR DEDUCT FOR DAMAGES

No ifs, no buts. The law is crystal clear.

If YOU do this, you are an irresponsible landlord and are breaking the law.

End of.

..... and once again for the foolio

p.s. you would be surprised how many student sign up to their tenancy agreements without even noticing the inventory attached. You may want to just check and be sure he doesnt, and that you havent signed anything without reading... a common student error.

like i said... students dont always look into exactly what they are signing.


p.s. yes i am an irresponsible landlord.. do i give a fcuk  no because i am not left out of pocket because some wisearse student breaks some sh1t 

as you were captain