BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites

[bobotheclown]

It's such a shame that it has come to this to be honest. From the figures I can pull off the internet it seems that cinema attendances are really strong:

2007: £904m (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/2792291/UK-cinema-attendances-approach-8-year-low.html)
2008: The total UK gross box office of £944m was up 11% on 2008
2009: £944m (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8468028.stm)
2010: £988m (http://www.cinemauk.org.uk/mediacentre/_112/)

So from the figures piracy doesn't seem to be hurting cinema attendances.

[Jay]

I've always gone to the cinema to watch a film I think is going to be good, if I enjoy it that much I'll grab a rip before it's released so I can watch it again before it's released and buy the DVD when it is finally out.

The film and music industry are moving too slowly and can't adapt to new technologies quick enough so others comes along and make a huge profit (itunes, lovefilm, netflix etc etc), it's partially their own fault for not moving quickly enough.

What would the deal be with renting movies? lovefilm for example?

That's done with consent from the industry, otherwise they'd be sued and shutdown by now.

But they are still doing what piracy is doing, but making more money off it?

No, because it's DRM'd and allowed by the movie industry only because if they don't allow it piracy would be much worse and they (the movie companies) failed to see the value of online rentals and the money to be made there.

[bobotheclown]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/jun/09/games-dvd-music-downloads-piracy

found this interesting article. Obviously it's more complicated than "home taping is killing  the music inductry" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music).

[golf-sib]

What about the damage companies cause to themselves by not making there product available, the gaming industry comes to mind and in turn I can understand why people pirate in these circumstances.

For instance Tombi (PS) & Earthbound (SNES) are two games difficult to get hold off, the first one I've never seen on sale anywhere in UK. I have downloaded the first game due to the fact its impossible to obtain otherwise I would happily off paid. There's plenty off games like this out there and not even available through digital market places.

Then some games become overpriced due to their rarity, "Kula World" and Harvest moon on the PlayStation spring to mind. For an outdated game who would pay £30++ for a copy? Again if it was available on the digital market place for a reasonable price I'd happily purchase it.. For an outdated game who would pay £30++ for a copy? Again if it was available on the digital market place for a reasonable price I'd happily purchase it.

[bobotheclown]

any lawyers here? They say it's not theft but copyright infringement.

[Jay]

The copyright laws are finally changing too

It means itunes will be a legal product now (for those of you who have not been following, making MP3's of your albums is illegal in the UK, but not illegal in most of the world, we're behind the times see)

[Ant1981]

(for those of you who have not been following, making MP3's of your albums is illegal in the UK, but not illegal in most of the world, we're behind the times see)

I don't see how they can expect us to buy every album twice.

[Jay]

That's why there have been people and businesses calling out for change in the archaic copyright laws for a long time, it's finally going to happen (even though people have been doing it illegally for years, and I bet some of the people on here crying about others downloading illegally have made 'backups' or mp3's of their media).

[dTEA]

I bet some of the people on here crying about others downloading illegally have made 'backups' or mp3's of their media).

[bobotheclown]

(for those of you who have not been following, making MP3's of your albums is illegal in the UK, but not illegal in most of the world, we're behind the times see)

I don't see how they can expect us to buy every album twice.

"Big Media" want's us to buy albums multiple times. Back in the day when they were on Vinyl, then on Cassette to use in Walkmans, then on CD and now digitally. There is a limit on how many times I'm going to buy the Beatles White Album.