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mk3 16v gti or mk4 1.8t??

mk3 16v gti
35 (48.6%)
mk4 1.8t gti
37 (51.4%)

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Offline murraymint

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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #60 on: 04 August 2011, 21:07 »
thanks to this thread i gone from wantin a mk4 to a mk3 1.8t conversion to now thinkin of tuning an abf

i'm no expert but im guessing 2k spent on a abf you would have more power than a 1.8t conversion

1st idea :
so say you buy a 16v gti to start with after selling your 1.6 probs £700-900 for yours look for a tidy 16v 1k-£1500 drive it for a while stock, get used to it and find out if its got any underlieing problems! Then pile 2k onto it 250hp easy with most work done yourself using info on the net which there is some as ive seriously looked into both and bought my car on the proviso it will be charged.  :smiley:


have to got any of those sites or pages for me to have a ganders at?

cheers

josh


95 Mk3 golf 1.6 CL, 96 Mk3 golf gti 16v, 89 Mk2 Jetta GL97 Mk3 golf gti 16v, 99 bora 2ltr se, 83 mk1 golf 1.1, 15 polo 1.2 tsi

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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #61 on: 04 August 2011, 21:15 »
£2k on a ABF will not get you more power than a 1.8T

Simples

Well ok yes may get away with a home brewed turbo conversion but how long would it last.

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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #62 on: 04 August 2011, 21:15 »
It could be done for 2k i guess if you do the work yourself. Alot of parts could be got SH. Engine dont't even need to be removed. Mine was more than that, but i got some expensive gauges and freshened up the engine with new ring and bearings although, i could have got away without doing it. Its even possible to do it with the standard ECU if you can get the right map sensor and have it mapped by someone who knows how.

Not seen many mk3 ABF turbos. One other was on ED38.

started to look thru your thread, lot of work gone into that!!
josh


95 Mk3 golf 1.6 CL, 96 Mk3 golf gti 16v, 89 Mk2 Jetta GL97 Mk3 golf gti 16v, 99 bora 2ltr se, 83 mk1 golf 1.1, 15 polo 1.2 tsi

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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #63 on: 04 August 2011, 21:20 »
£2k on a ABF will not get you more power than a 1.8T

Simples

Well ok yes may get away with a home brewed turbo conversion but how long would it last.

Are you sure??

Last fine. over 10k since build and no problems with engine.



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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #64 on: 04 August 2011, 21:23 »
£2k on a ABF will not get you more power than a 1.8T

Simples

Well ok yes may get away with a home brewed turbo conversion but how long would it last.

Are you sure??

Last fine. over 10k since build and no problems with engine.



With respect you know what you are doing etc and yours is a high standard of build, still not going to be cheap or easy when you factor in all the extras etc.
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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #65 on: 04 August 2011, 21:24 »
Some other builds.

9a 16vt

what inspired me

Toyotecs Wolf R


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Offline murraymint

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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #66 on: 04 August 2011, 21:30 »
£2k on a ABF will not get you more power than a 1.8T

Simples

Well ok yes may get away with a home brewed turbo conversion but how long would it last.

Are you sure??

Last fine. over 10k since build and no problems with engine.



With respect you know what you are doing etc and yours is a high standard of build, still not going to be cheap or easy when you factor in all the extras etc.

as cool and less common an abf turbo is, i think that realisticly i'd be better off with a 1.8t conversion as i feal that i could do that but looking thru your thread tshirt2k it looks good but i think that its beyond my capability 
josh


95 Mk3 golf 1.6 CL, 96 Mk3 golf gti 16v, 89 Mk2 Jetta GL97 Mk3 golf gti 16v, 99 bora 2ltr se, 83 mk1 golf 1.1, 15 polo 1.2 tsi

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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #67 on: 04 August 2011, 21:31 »
£2k on a ABF will not get you more power than a 1.8T

Simples

Well ok yes may get away with a home brewed turbo conversion but how long would it last.

Are you sure??

Last fine. over 10k since build and no problems with engine.



With respect you know what you are doing etc and yours is a high standard of build, not going to be cheap or easy when you factor in all the extras etc.

Nothing good is ever easy. There are way of doing things cheaper.
Toyotec on CGTI spent alot on a lightend, balanced bottom end then the mains spun due the the wrong bearings being supplied. All replaced with an used AGG crank and reused head bolts and reliably puts out 315PS.

 Not that its the ideal way, but its possible to do some shortcuts to get what you want. :wink: ie you dont need to lighten flywheel, replace rings, bearings, oil pump, use ARP head studs etc


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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #68 on: 04 August 2011, 21:33 »
£2k on a ABF will not get you more power than a 1.8T

Simples

Well ok yes may get away with a home brewed turbo conversion but how long would it last.

Are you sure??

Last fine. over 10k since build and no problems with engine.



With respect you know what you are doing etc and yours is a high standard of build, still not going to be cheap or easy when you factor in all the extras etc.

as cool and less common an abf turbo is, i think that realisticly i'd be better off with a 1.8t conversion as i feal that i could do that but looking thru your thread tshirt2k it looks good but i think that its beyond my capability 

Very true. Its all down to what you feel you can cope with, and I like a challenge. :nerd: A 1.8T is more of a complete package. But intercooler/boost run in my thread will be relavent still :wink:


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Re: mk3 or mk4
« Reply #69 on: 08 August 2011, 17:18 »
it was at a local car show, i was there with the local vw club, i parked up at the back n then they moved it to the front lol, made for a good pic tho.

Yeah it is a good pic


I would also turbo the 16v. I want to supercharge my 8v  :tongue: But I would spend £3000/£5000 it's not just the engine, think diff  :wink:

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