mk3 or mk4

[tshirt2k]

Anyone thought of a mk3 16v keeping the engine and adding a turbo?  ABFs are a good engine to add forced induction to. Takes work, but not so common.

[dragongreengolfgti]

I am thinking supercharged on my abf but just deciding what to do with the golf as looking to sell in feb.

[murraymint]

Anyone thought of a mk3 16v keeping the engine and adding a turbo?  ABFs are a good engine to add forced induction to. Takes work, but not so common.

how much would that cost n what are the power gains?

[dragongreengolfgti]

supercharged probably around 250-270bhp 240ft torque
turbo depending on setup and which one etc 300bhp +

In either case a complete engine rebuild and uprated internals put in i reckon a good 270bhp charged version could be done for 1.5 k possibly 

[murraymint]

supercharged probably around 250-270bhp 240ft torque
turbo depending on setup and which one etc 300bhp +

In either case a complete engine rebuild and uprated internals put in i reckon a good 270bhp charged version could be done for 1.5 k possibly 

hmmmmm, sounds intresting, seems as people say the a 1.8t conversion cost about £2k, you've me thinkin lol

[tshirt2k]

supercharged probably around 250-270bhp 240ft torque
turbo depending on setup and which one etc 300bhp +

In either case a complete engine rebuild and uprated internals put in i reckon a good 270bhp charged version could be done for 1.5 k possibly 

Don't necessarily need uprated internals. Standard ABf on stacked gaskets can cope with 300+hp and 280ftlbs torque. Mine on last rolling road check put out 260ftlbs of torque and 240hp. Has more now but haven't had it confirmed yet.

Depending on the supercharger. Cheaper M62 eaton is the common one. 230hp/ 220 ftlb torque. or there abouts. Just cant stand the whine.

When working out costs. Think of a figure and add half again.  Amazing how all the little things add up. Also depends on the quality of components used including whether you have all correct saftey devices and gauges etc.

People talk about power figures. Has anyone driven a properly mapped 220 hp car with torque to match? You may find its faster than you think. It all about the torque.

How much do you want to spend?

[murraymint]

Well seems as i was planning on spending about 2k on a 1.8t conversion id say that much. What cud 2k get me?? (2k just on engine)

[murraymint]

2k being the the max obv lol

[dragongreengolfgti]

i'm no expert but im guessing 2k spent on a abf you would have more power than a 1.8t conversion

1st idea :
so say you buy a 16v gti to start with after selling your 1.6 probs £700-900 for yours look for a tidy 16v 1k-£1500 drive it for a while stock, get used to it and find out if its got any underlieing problems! Then pile 2k onto it 250hp easy with most work done yourself using info on the net which there is some as ive seriously looked into both and bought my car on the proviso it will be charged. 
2nd idea :
Keep the 1.6 ready for a 1.8t conversion to buy all components needed engine etc etc it will cost you £1600 for anything half decent i know i almost bought a ibiza 1.8t conversion off a mate few weeks ago he wanted 1600 for a fsh 63k miles everything possible needed for the conversion so loom, box the works all in 1600! then of course you need to fit it + either work on it new gaskets etc buy mates beer tokens for helping do it and then you still only have either 150/180/ 0r 210/225 bhp 1.8t as stock so that leaves you with £500 to tune if your lucky more like thats the 2k done just to get the engine in there!

Anyway i know the route i'd be taking and of course remember insurance are going to rape you which ever you do and fuel so its likely you will want a 1.6 to commute in  lol

[tshirt2k]

It could be done for 2k i guess if you do the work yourself. Alot of parts could be got SH. Engine dont't even need to be removed. Mine was more than that, but i got some expensive gauges and freshened up the engine with new ring and bearings although, i could have got away without doing it. Its even possible to do it with the standard ECU if you can get the right map sensor and have it mapped by someone who knows how.

Not seen many mk3 ABF turbos. One other was on ED38.