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Offline am1w

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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #70 on: 12 July 2011, 22:45 »
My final dribble, possibly, on this fascinating thread: Diesels especially don't like stop/start traffic 7 days a week, I have been given to understand possibly rightly or wrongly. In fact, I read in Autocar sometime ago, Audi have informed their dealers in Jersey, where the rigorously enforced speed limit is 30 mph, that Diesel engines may possibly run into problems as the DPF will not be operating at optimum temperature and could possibly start to malfunction by getting clogged, possibly.
One can't win either way it seems, possibly. :grin:
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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #71 on: 12 July 2011, 23:05 »
20000 miles in one year at 600approx miles to a tank = £2500 in fuel = GTD
20000 miles in one year at 300approx miles to a tank = £5000 in fuel = GTI (After a 4 year saving in fuel I could buy a used mk6 GTI if I wanted one).

Most people I know with a GTD average about 45mpg, I average about 35mpg in my GTI.

In a GTD 20000 miles @ 45mpg @ £1.40/litre = £2828.62
In a GTI  20000 miles @ 35mpg @ £1.36/litre = £3506.91

So the GTI costs an extra £678.29 per year in fuel, not sure where the £2500 comes from.
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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #72 on: 12 July 2011, 23:18 »
20000 miles in one year at 600approx miles to a tank = £2500 in fuel = GTD
20000 miles in one year at 300approx miles to a tank = £5000 in fuel = GTI (After a 4 year saving in fuel I could buy a used mk6 GTI if I wanted one).

Most people I know with a GTD average about 45mpg, I average about 35mpg in my GTI.

In a GTD 20000 miles @ 45mpg @ £1.40/litre = £2828.62
In a GTI  20000 miles @ 35mpg @ £1.36/litre = £3056.91

So the GTI costs an extra £678.29 per year in fuel, not sure where the £2500 comes from.


Just takes a little longer to save up then. Atlhough at 45mpg they must drive round with a lead foot all the time.
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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #73 on: 12 July 2011, 23:33 »

Just takes a little longer to save up then. Atlhough at 45mpg they must drive round with a lead foot all the time.

Just trying to keep up with mr gti i imagine  :laugh: :laugh:




go on... you know you were all thinking it!  :grin:

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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #74 on: 12 July 2011, 23:38 »

Just takes a little longer to save up then. Atlhough at 45mpg they must drive round with a lead foot all the time.

Just trying to keep up with mr gti i imagine  :laugh: :laugh:




go on... you know you were all thinking it!  :grin:

Lol  :lipsrsealed:
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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #75 on: 12 July 2011, 23:45 »
for what its worth... if i was wasting investing my money, I would go for the GTD over the GTI :nerd:

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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #76 on: 12 July 2011, 23:56 »
Yes, you would then be really wasting your money intentionally. :laugh:
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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #77 on: 13 July 2011, 00:32 »
Yes, you would then be really wasting your money intentionally. :laugh:

no... its not a GTD before you ask  :cool:

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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #78 on: 13 July 2011, 04:48 »
Trying to avoid the petrol versus diesel debate, I will give you some genuine feedback about owning a GTD.

I swapped my Ed30 for a GTD. That was a mistake, which I remedied 6 months later when I got rid of it.

Pros-excellent interior (ie standard Mk6), comfortable and a genuine 50mpg (combined).
 
Cons-poor handling after a GTI, very nose heavy with pronounced understeer eg on roundabouts. No getting away from it, despite 170bhp it is slow (boring) after a GTI. You need to get the 18'' Vancouvers to make it look decent as the standard 17'''s look crap IMHO.
Mine was Carbon Grey and the paint literally fell off the bonnet at the slightest touch. Stone chipping the worst on any car I have owned (though not the GTDs fault as such, but VW paint in general?).

The GTD is typical of 'some' VW products, a triumph of marketing over substance (meaning it's too expensive). Just looking at second hand examples on the VW site the prices are ridiculous. It makes more sense in my opinion to buy the GT TDI and if you want extra performance get it mapped. There are plenty of specced GT TDIs including some with Vancouvers that are cheaper than a poverty spec GTD.

I appreciate that some people have modded their GTDs into great machines, but as standard and after a GTI mine soon left me flat.

Obviously as an 'infrequent' (ok, hardly ever) poster on here I am prepared to be flamed (!!), but having gone through the GTD 'process', I feel well placed to advise others.
So, what did you replace the GTD with, out of interest?
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Re: Golf GTD, what are they like to own?
« Reply #79 on: 13 July 2011, 10:39 »
I personally don't see the GTD as a GTI replacement, its just a posh understated mini-executive bruiser.  Sound wise, if your really into your sound, what the hell are you looking for good sound in your car for, spend the dollar on a better home setup!

Everyone given a choice seems to prefer the R.  Just insane running costs prevent GTI drivers moving up, which shows even they must care about costs...almost like a GTD owner.  :evil:

All are silly money for mass produced vehicles, and lets face it if we were all really that into our performance we'd choose a 4 year old M5 or the like with very few miles on the clock.  Not that I'm thinking this is an option if VW could take any longer to build a golf  :laugh:

As to ACTUALLY owning one......I'm going with what GTD owners have posted, I suspect running costs are somewhere between these two...

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20000 miles in one year at 600approx miles to a tank = £2500 in fuel = GTD
20000 miles in one year at 300approx miles to a tank = £5000 in fuel = GTI (After a 4 year saving in fuel I could buy a used mk6 GTI if I wanted one).

Most people I know with a GTD average about 45mpg, I average about 35mpg in my GTI.

In a GTD 20000 miles @ 45mpg @ £1.40/litre = £2828.62
In a GTI  20000 miles @ 35mpg @ £1.36/litre = £3056.91

So the GTI costs an extra £678.29 per year in fuel, not sure where the £2500 comes from.


Just takes a little longer to save up then. Atlhough at 45mpg they must drive round with a lead foot all the time.
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