Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff

[WadGTI]

Its moderising pay in local govervnment. This isnt news lol .

Most of all scottish council have gone through this process and the are very few remaining!

[mac7]

The fact Shropshire council employs 6500 people in the first place is what I take issue with - it's not exactly an area of high population density, is it. They should be able to do the job adequately with half that number.

[AudiA8Quattro]

If public sector pay really is out of control and unsustainable, start cutting from the top.

[Horney]

If public sector pay really is out of control and unsustainable, start cutting from the top.

I partially agree, but 20% of the top earners makes little impact, 10% of the thousands of lower earners is a massive sum in comparison. They willl have cut wages at the top as well though.

Nick

[AudiA8Quattro]

It will be interesting to see figures on top earners, the last set released last year showed around 1250 people earning more than 100k working for councils.
Regardless of raising more money, which i think is questionable, if you cut higher earners, then that is setting an example to people lower down the scale.
This is the only proper way to behave, not threaten to sack everyone!

[Horney]

It will be interesting to see figures on top earners, the last set released last year showed around 1250 people earning more than 100k working for councils.
Regardless of raising more money, which i think is questionable, if you cut higher earners, then that is setting an example to people lower down the scale.
This is the only proper way to behave, not threaten to sack everyone!

You're missing my point. If they have already cut the top earners pay then what else can they do? People have to understand they have to take paycut. If they don't want to take a paycut then fine, sack em. I don't see the problem. Too many people in this country think it's their god given right to have a job and earn money, it's not. You gotta earn it and you have to take a hit when times are tough.

I've worked with the public sector a lot and they are utterly hopeless in most cases. A good example is my father in law. He worked for IRS and had to have 2 assistants to fill his quota even though he didn't even need one. He had to make up work for them to do and then he got retired off early at 55 on a final salary pension to save money. What a joke. It's about time the Public sector got a brush out. Plenty of dead wood needed to be got rid of at both the top and bottom.

nick

[AudiA8Quattro]

No Nick, i think you are missing my point.
The conservatives say that public sector pay and conditions are unsustainable.
My point is if this is true then the people at the top should start first.
For example the prime minister should come out first and offer to take a cut.
Also all MPs and councillors should take a pay cut, they are all overpaid public servants.
Show me evidence that this is happening and i'll happily agree with you 

[simonpolly]

Speaking as a Shropshire council tax payer I say sack the lot of them 

[MrBounce]

The main issue with Councils is not the "bread and butter" workers or the very top earners. It's the middle managers who have been there for years and are utterly ineffective at what they do. I have worked in both the public and private sector and what generally happens is when there is training the Managers don't bother to learn new stuff, they simply delegate.

They end up with virually no skills (or those which are outdated) and when they actually have to do something they turn out to be completely hopeless. Someone needs to do an Alan Sugar and get the whole lot into a boardroom and make them actually prove their worth...

[JC]

 

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