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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #10 on: 05 July 2011, 15:00 »
I wonder how many people, who if they had the chance to stand up to their employer, would accept reduced terms and be happy just to have a job.
Bearing in mind, not having a pay rise every year, is infact a reduction in wages in real terms. Having your pay reduced by 5.4% is a big hit to take.


If it's legal to just dismiss you like that then there is no standing up to an employer is there? There'd be nothing you could do.

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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #11 on: 05 July 2011, 15:04 »
I wonder how many people, who if they had the chance to stand up to their employer, would accept reduced terms and be happy just to have a job.
Bearing in mind, not having a pay rise every year, is infact a reduction in wages in real terms. Having your pay reduced by 5.4% is a big hit to take.


If it's legal to just dismiss you like that then there is no standing up to an employer is there? There'd be nothing you could do.

I don't know if its legal, if it is it shouldn't be.
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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #12 on: 05 July 2011, 15:04 »
I wonder how many people, who if they had the chance to stand up to their employer, would accept reduced terms and be happy just to have a job.
Bearing in mind, not having a pay rise every year, is infact a reduction in wages in real terms. Having your pay reduced by 5.4% is a big hit to take.


Been there, done that got the t-Shirt. It's easy, you accept it, be glad you still have a wage coming in at all and keep one eye on the jjob market at all times in case something better comes up. I was on 30K 2 years ago and I'm now on about 3rd of that but still manage to get by with some belt tightening. It's not easy but better than being a dole scrounger. My new job has good prospects so just have to grin and bear it.

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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #13 on: 05 July 2011, 15:46 »
I had this happen to me in the past we all had to take a pay cut or people would start losing jobs. We all accepted it 6 months later we went bust anyway lol got a new owner wages went back up 12 months later went bust again.  :laugh: can laugh about it now but was gutted at the time.

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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #14 on: 05 July 2011, 15:48 »
Whats the beef? They all get to keep their jobs, no stupid early retirements (how they add up to a saving is a mystery to me, especially when you consider the loss of a considerable knowledge base that inevitably happens in such cases), the staffing levels stay the same so no effect to the locals, the only problem is that they have to take a paycut. Seems like a logical approach to the problem of not being able to force through necessary paycuts to me that considers both the employees and the people they serve in equal measure. Sure a paycut is a ballache but as others have pointed to, a lot of people have and are in worse situations.

What made me laugh was the person complaining that they would lose up to 3k per year due to this. Do the maths and you can see they get paid more than enough anyway!! Either that or they are taking the piss out of their expenses at the taxpayers expense!

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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #15 on: 05 July 2011, 15:56 »
90 days of talks which cost time and money,  :rolleyes:

no outcome,  :angry:

action taken  :evil:

cant see the problem meself,  :tongue:

theres always the dole office  :smiley:
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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #16 on: 05 July 2011, 16:22 »
when they take the paycut, after getting sacked/laid off whatever. they'll also be due a whole lot less benefits that relate to length of service.

probably cover, redundancy pay, holiday, pensions etc


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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #17 on: 05 July 2011, 16:38 »
My 'beef' with this is its always the ordinary people that seem to have to take the cuts.
I say cut MP and councillors pay  :tongue:
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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #18 on: 05 July 2011, 16:49 »
My 'beef' with this is its always the ordinary people that seem to have to take the cuts.
I say cut MP and councillors pay  :tongue:
i heartily agree with you there, its their astronomical pay that should be cut first.       
in councils saving money,as the first round of budgeting, expense claims should be stopped as well as any bonuses due, all 'fact finding and consultations' should get the same treatment. anything not deemed essential to services should be stopped.
the only exemptions would be for the ordinary workers like midwifes etc who need to travel around, but for the bosses and management none whatsoever

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Re: Shropshire Council to dismiss all staff
« Reply #19 on: 05 July 2011, 16:51 »
My 'beef' with this is its always the ordinary people that seem to have to take the cuts.
I say cut MP and councillors pay  :tongue:
i heartily agree with you there, its their astronomical pay that should be cut first.      
in councils saving money,as the first round of budgeting, expense claims should be stopped as well as any bonuses due, all 'fact finding and consultations' should get the same treatment. anything not deemed essential to services should be stopped.
the only exemptions would be for the ordinary workers like midwifes etc who need to travel around, but for the bosses and management none whatsoever

And how do you now they haven't already implemented this?