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Offline mellow yellow

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getting paid for your hobby?
« on: 04 July 2011, 14:50 »
things are a bit tight for me at the moment and i'm trying to think of ways of boosting my income.

i love cleaning my car and see it as a hobby and i have often been asked to do friends and colleagues cars but have either done it for nothing or as a favour etc.

i am looking to do it as a second job and fit it in around my current 9-5 as an insurance broker, i was hoping to fill the gap between the cheap roadside car wash and the full on correctional detailers.

starting with a basic wash, tyre and trim dress and glass clean. (£10)
working up to a layer of polish (£5), sealant (£5), wax (£5), clay (£10) and interior clean (£10) as options for an extra charge.

all will be done by hand and on the owners premises ao no trade insurance will be required. i also have connections in the body repair trade so could generate a bit of work through them and would also advertise locally. i thought also a vist to local dealerships to see if they have any work?

just after some general opinions on whether this will be a viable business as just a part time venture
what are your thoughts and opinions please

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Re: getting paid for your hobby?
« Reply #1 on: 04 July 2011, 15:00 »
Guess it boils down to how much you love doing it and ££ p/hr and how much free time you wanted! It is definitely something I would consider if I wasn't in the RAF as a part time during the week!

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« Reply #2 on: 04 July 2011, 15:55 »
Its a good idea, but dont underestimate the time it takes to do it all, and the income you would generate whilst doing it offset against the cost of products etc. Start small though so its worth asking one or two local garages and starting from there, as you dont want to overload yourself, and end up dissappointing others that may take you on. If you enjoy it though, its worth a shot even if its just part time over the w.ends etc.  :smiley:
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Re: getting paid for your hobby?
« Reply #3 on: 04 July 2011, 16:13 »
Its a good idea, but dont underestimate the time it takes to do it all, and the income you would generate whilst doing it offset against the cost of products etc. Start small though so its worth asking one or two local garages and starting from there, as you dont want to overload yourself, and end up dissappointing others that may take you on. If you enjoy it though, its worth a shot even if its just part time over the w.ends etc.  :smiley:

this summarised what i was thinking really. i do enjoy it but who knows if the enjoyment will remain if i do it for an extra source of income?

i have a good collection of products already, so it will just be a case of replacing them as and when with the best combo of value for money and quality.

i have based my prices on the cost of traveling to the client locally within the £10.00, then for instance i could polish a full car in 30-40 mins easy, the same for wax and based this on an hourly rate of £6-7 for everything else, if that makes sense? but i guess this doent account for product used? maybe £7/8 for polish and wax layers would be better for me?
« Last Edit: 04 July 2011, 16:18 by mellow yellow »

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« Reply #4 on: 04 July 2011, 17:18 »
Yeah I reckon your first prices at a fiver a pop were a little on the low side. Worth having a quick browse round locally for anywhere else doing this sort of thing (valeters etc - but not the foreigners in an old garage with a karcher and a bottle of fairy liquid!), to see what they are charging. You will obviously have to undercut them a bit as well. Obviously its easier for potential clients if you go to them, but will they feel its a little intrusive if your in and out filling buckets of water if they dont have an outside water supply etc. I take it you have a DA/Rotary polisher or are you doing it by hand? Like you said as well, its great as an occasional hobby, but will you soon become dissillusioned with it and lose the love! Do a little market research like suggested first, and make sure its a viable option. No harm no foul at the end of the day!  :wink: :smiley:

Oh I mention the DA/Rotary, as if your using that, you need to offset the price of new mops etc, and it may be wise to factor in the possiblity of your polisher breaking for any reason, and the need to replace it quickly, especially if doing it for trade clients.
« Last Edit: 04 July 2011, 17:27 by Seanl »
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« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2011, 18:17 »
it will all be by hand to begin with sean, maybe if it takes off i will look into a da/rotary but i will mainly be concentrating on a wash and wax as i think that will be the more popular and cost effective.

market research is the next step, like you say, nothing ventured and all that.

i have already thought of a name  :wink:

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« Reply #6 on: 04 July 2011, 21:58 »
it will all be by hand to begin with sean, maybe if it takes off i will look into a da/rotary but i will mainly be concentrating on a wash and wax as i think that will be the more popular and cost effective.

market research is the next step, like you say, nothing ventured and all that.

i have already thought of a name  :wink:

Go on then, enlighten us!!  :smiley:
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Re: getting paid for your hobby?
« Reply #7 on: 04 July 2011, 22:01 »
OCD
Oxtoby (my surname) cleaning and detailing  :laugh:

i think it has been used elsewhere for similar but i like it.

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Re: getting paid for your hobby?
« Reply #8 on: 05 July 2011, 09:26 »
Its a good idea, but dont underestimate the time it takes to do it all, and the income you would generate whilst doing it offset against the cost of products etc. Start small though so its worth asking one or two local garages and starting from there, as you dont want to overload yourself, and end up dissappointing others that may take you on. If you enjoy it though, its worth a shot even if its just part time over the w.ends etc.  :smiley:

this summarised what i was thinking really. i do enjoy it but who knows if the enjoyment will remain if i do it for an extra source of income?

i have a good collection of products already, so it will just be a case of replacing them as and when with the best combo of value for money and quality.

i have based my prices on the cost of traveling to the client locally within the £10.00, then for instance i could polish a full car in 30-40 mins easy, the same for wax and based this on an hourly rate of £6-7 for everything else, if that makes sense? but i guess this doent account for product used? maybe £7/8 for polish and wax layers would be better for me?


I can totally appreciate why you are doing this as you seem to enjoy it... but be warned about the enjoyment waning once you start doing it when you don't want to eg, inclement weather, extra hot weather, when you have a headache, when people are on a timescale etc?

garages tend to want the earth for a job that is done on a budget, they will also want it done quickly and tend to have rubbish payment terms

yes you can polish a car in 30-40mins easy... but what about the prep... loading your car up with gear, getting there, informing the client about your process, setting your kit up, finding water and power at the premises, filling buckets, getting pressure washer working, pre-wash, wash, wheels, rinse, clay, rinse, dry and then you are on to the polish?

if you are machine polishing cars you WILL need insurance that covers this, together with public liability insurance

if you are driving to and from a clients you WILL need to change your insurance terms

if you are using a karcher for non-domestic purposes then expect it to give up within a matter of months

buying in bulk will save you money in the long run, even though the outlay is more expensive, you will soon find that the cost of replacing your 'insert premium funky named product here' will become unviable as it is too expensive and you go through it like wildfire... so using autosmart/bulk valeting products is the only method.

so not only do you need to cover yourself for your time, but also for your business costs and materials

you'll find it hard to break through search engine rankings with that company name: see here
« Last Edit: 05 July 2011, 09:33 by Guy »

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Re: getting paid for your hobby?
« Reply #9 on: 05 July 2011, 09:30 »
there speaketh a man in the know  :smiley: