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Strikes. Are you with them or not?

Yes they should strike.
9 (18.8%)
No they should crack on working and stop moaning
39 (81.3%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Voting closed: 01 July 2011, 10:18

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Offline AudiA8Quattro

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Re: Strikes. Are you with them or not?
« Reply #120 on: 01 July 2011, 14:42 »
That's hardly the teachers fault.
Poor girl was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Most the press in this country are very sad, like alot of the readers unfortunately  :rolleyes:
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Re: Strikes. Are you with them or not?
« Reply #121 on: 01 July 2011, 14:48 »
That's hardly the teachers fault.
Poor girl was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Most the press in this country are very sad, like alot of the reader unfortunately  :rolleyes:


have to agree.. thats just bad luck

how many kids are killed on the way to or from school by cars, busses each year

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Re: Strikes. Are you with them or not?
« Reply #122 on: 01 July 2011, 17:13 »
That's just bad luck and very unfortunate,  the teachers didn't tell her to sit there. f**king daily sh!tty mail using her death as an emotional  weapon effectively. Cnuts.
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Re: Strikes. Are you with them or not?
« Reply #123 on: 01 July 2011, 17:37 »
Jay, i also said i didn't actually agree with striking, i was just trying to get people to see it from a different perspective.

Also these 250k gold plated pensions, what does that actually mean in terms of a yearly income?

Iirc teaching pensions are based on a 25 year retirement so 10k a year.

I doesn't work like that at all. Final salary schemes are called that because the pension is calculated on the salary at or near pension age and years in the scheme. That's why they are typically a "generous" pension, in the case of a teacher at the moment it's about 60% of final salary per month iirc

What we have moved over to in the Private Sector is more like what you describe and is called a defined contribution pension, you pay a set amount in each month, it's invested to grow at a pitiful rate to form the pension pot at retirement. This is then divvied up based on life expectancy, at the moment 19 yrs for a man and 22 years for a woman.

 

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Re: Strikes. Are you with them or not?
« Reply #124 on: 01 July 2011, 19:12 »

I doesn't work like that at all. Final salary schemes are called that because the pension is calculated on the salary at or near pension age and years in the scheme. That's why they are typically a "generous" pension, in the case of a teacher at the moment it's about 60% of final salary per month iirc

Depends how many years you've worked.  Maximum is 35/60 of final salary (around 60%, as you say) but only if you've been in the scheme for 35 years or more.  Scheme was changed for new entrants in 2007 to work on /80ths, so for anyone starting now it'll be less.

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Re: Strikes. Are you with them or not?
« Reply #125 on: 01 July 2011, 19:52 »
you have to pay into pensions  :huh: :lipsrsealed: :kiss:

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Re: Strikes. Are you with them or not?
« Reply #126 on: 01 July 2011, 20:34 »

I doesn't work like that at all. Final salary schemes are called that because the pension is calculated on the salary at or near pension age and years in the scheme. That's why they are typically a "generous" pension, in the case of a teacher at the moment it's about 60% of final salary per month iirc

Depends how many years you've worked.  Maximum is 35/60 of final salary (around 60%, as you say) but only if you've been in the scheme for 35 years or more.  Scheme was changed for new entrants in 2007 to work on /80ths, so for anyone starting now it'll be less.


well said. The changes were in response to those that are entering the schemes now are likely to live longer and therefore the amount they will claim back will be more in over the total years. But as I've said if d1ckheads didn't pause part way through and still expect a decent final salary I'm sure they would still have been in effect

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