Strikes. Are you with them or not?

[Komenda]

The voice of the majority. Not intelligent enough to actually create a valid response and contribute to a discussion so they resort to name calling.

[Mitching]

People seem to be missing the whole point of this. At the moment the public sector all get to retire with a cushy pension at 61 while us private sector bods, (who bolster their pensions) get to work a nice 5 years longer (8 years very soon). They are striking because they will have to work as long as everyone else.

IMO they are f**king work shy parasites.

Edit - and as for teachers, 13 weeks holiday a year, they need lining up and beating very hard with a common sense stick.

You clearly don't know how much work teachers do.
No overtime, sometimes 12 hour days.
Dealing with the pupils wayne kerr parents on occasions, so much of the work is overlooked, taken for granted and they're judged on face value.

I never liked teachers at school, but looking back at how much of a thingy I was I have so much respect for them for putting up with me, and a few tried so hard to get me on track and make something of myself.

[Len]

A load of strikers are camped outside my office building as the first 19 floors are Inland Revenue!
They have plenty of tea/coffe and biscuits!

Whatever the reduction in their pensions they end up with it will still be 10 times better than mine!

[Komenda]

People seem to be missing the whole point of this. At the moment the public sector all get to retire with a cushy pension at 61 while us private sector bods, (who bolster their pensions) get to work a nice 5 years longer (8 years very soon). They are striking because they will have to work as long as everyone else.

IMO they are f**king work shy parasites.

Edit - and as for teachers, 13 weeks holiday a year, they need lining up and beating very hard with a common sense stick.

You clearly don't know how much work teachers do.
No overtime, sometimes 12 hour days.
Dealing with the pupils wayne kerr parents on occasions, so much of the work is overlooked, taken for granted and they're judged on face value.

I never liked teachers at school, but looking back at how much of a thingy I was I have so much respect for them for putting up with me, and a few tried so hard to get me on track and make something of myself.

The private sector is no different. Expecting to work less than the rest of the country can not be justified by 'stress of the job'. We all have bills to pay, and are for the most part, expected to work unpaid overtime by our employers. It is an unfortunate side effect of living a comfortable life. Apart from a small percentage of this country, we all have to work to live.

I have respect for what teachers do (I wouldn't do it) and appreciate dealing with offensive little sh!ts with scum for parents who couldnt care less about their children is hard, but they're not on their own. And the way the population is growing and living longer, they should not expect to work for less time than the rest of the country.

Teachers have been sigled out in this, but it equally applies to the rest of the public sector.

Edit - yes I do have a massive bug up my arse about this. 

[Kerrse]

You clearly don't know how much work teachers do.
No overtime, sometimes 12 hour days.
Dealing with the pupils wayne kerr parents on occasions, so much of the work is overlooked, taken for granted and they're judged on face value.

I never liked teachers at school, but looking back at how much of a thingy I was I have so much respect for them for putting up with me, and a few tried so hard to get me on track and make something of myself.

No one doubts they work hard well i don't but i do think striking is wrong wont get em what they want & causes loads of hassle for parents etc

Striking very rarely works if ever ! Get used to the fact things just are just not the way they used to be.

I do however think MP's should work for free

[dom]

A load of strikers are camped outside my office building as the first 19 floors are Inland Revenue!
They have plenty of tea/coffe and biscuits!

Whatever the reduction in their pensions they end up with it will still be 10 times better than mine!

It's not just reduction in pensions, alongside that it's increased pension contributions for a longer period of time in combination with pay freezes. All of which adds up considerably

People seem to be missing the whole point of this. At the moment the public sector all get to retire with a cushy pension at 61 while us private sector bods, (who bolster their pensions) get to work a nice 5 years longer (8 years very soon). They are striking because they will have to work as long as everyone else.

IMO they are f**king work shy parasites.

Edit - and as for teachers, 13 weeks holiday a year, they need lining up and beating very hard with a common sense stick.

You clearly don't know how much work teachers do.
No overtime, sometimes 12 hour days.
Dealing with the pupils wayne kerr parents on occasions, so much of the work is overlooked, taken for granted and they're judged on face value.

I never liked teachers at school, but looking back at how much of a thingy I was I have so much respect for them for putting up with me, and a few tried so hard to get me on track and make something of myself.

Nail on the head, despite having 13 weeks a year holiday the majority of that is taken up with planning/marking/writing schemes of work/creating resources. Personally in an average weeks holiday I end up having 2 or 3 days off maximum, at least an entire day of every weekend is taken up with preparation for the following week.

I leave the house at 7:30 every morning and often don't get in until gone 5 to then spend 2 or 3 hours each evening working. On average I spend around 10-12 hours a day working through the week and 4 or 5 hours at the weekend, which is around 60 hours a week, as Mitching says we don't get paid overtime. So who ever wants to say that teachers are work shy parasites can go f*ck themselves.

[Horney]

Public sector workers really don't like old people do they?

Kay from Leicester e-mails: I have been teaching for 12 years and love my job. However, when entering the profession I did look into what it means for my future. I was pleased with the pension scheme and even chose to contribute extra- all the time keeping in mind my and my families future. This job is so physically and mentally demanding, I've see class sizes grow and funding cut yet we are supposed to keep the results growing. I personally would not be happy with a 68-year-old teaching my child - would you?

Angela, Dunbartonshire texts: When the time comes, I will also take strike action for the right to retire. Who wants to be treated by a 67-year old theatre nurse? I've been paying into my pension for over 30 years, and I pay taxes, too

Nick

[Ant1981]

It's not just reduction in pensions, alongside that it's increased pension contributions for a longer period of time in combination with pay freezes. All of which adds up considerably

We're all having to pay, why should we pay up but not teachers? Why should we fund them? Why do they think they shouldn't join in?

A very good friend of mine is a teacher, of course they all do a sterling job, but everyone is paying more, so should they.

[Kerrse]

It's not just reduction in pensions, alongside that it's increased pension contributions for a longer period of time in combination with pay freezes. All of which adds up considerably

We're all having to pay, why should we pay up but not teachers? Why should we fund them? Why do they think they shouldn't join in?

A very good friend of mine is a teacher, of course they all do a sterling job, but everyone is paying more, so should they.

 

[Horney]

Nail on the head, despite having 13 weeks a year holiday the majority of that is taken up with planning/marking/writing schemes of work/creating resources. Personally in an average weeks holiday I end up having 2 or 3 days off maximum, at least an entire day of every weekend is taken up with preparation for the following week.

I leave the house at 7:30 every morning and often don't get in until gone 5 to then spend 2 or 3 hours each evening working. On average I spend around 10-12 hours a day working through the week and 4 or 5 hours at the weekend, which is around 60 hours a week, as Mitching says we don't get paid overtime. So who ever wants to say that teachers are work shy parasites can go f*ck themselves.

My wife easily works that number of hours if not more, is out of the house by 7am most days, often not back till 6pm, does on avergae 500 miles a week driving to go to and from meetings and earns considerably less than a teacher and has to contribute a lot to her pension, has had no pay rise in 3 years and all bonuses suspended.

Still feel hard done by?

Nick