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Offline jonesltd

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MK4 to MK6
« on: 29 June 2011, 12:55 »
Am a mk4 owner and thinking of changing to a MK6 having spoken to VW. But does the same apply to mk6's as mk4's that 2.0L's Golf GTI / GTD is slow?

I have a 1.9 at min 130 but stage 1 remap and want power and want to stick to dervs.
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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #1 on: 29 June 2011, 13:24 »
I would definitely say that the GTI & GTD are NOT slow but obviously are very different cars.

Your next step needs to be a test drive to see what you think and feel in comparison.

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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #2 on: 29 June 2011, 13:27 »
GTD all the way then get it mapped by Doc , the differance is chalk & cheese between mk4-mk6 :cool:

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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #3 on: 29 June 2011, 14:21 »
Am a mk4 owner and thinking of changing to a MK6 having spoken to VW. But does the same apply to mk6's as mk4's that 2.0L's Golf GTI / GTD is slow? I have a 1.9 at min 130 but stage 1 remap and want power and want to stick to dervs.

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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #4 on: 29 June 2011, 14:29 »
MK6 is a far superior car in every way (apart from possibly looks)

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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #5 on: 29 June 2011, 14:54 »
The mk6 GTD is not in the same class bracket as a GTI. I mean there's Saxo's that beat the GTD. It's around 1.5 secs slower than the GTI and the slouch wont even hit 140. Plus you'll look a cheap ba5tard for not buying a GTI.


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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #6 on: 29 June 2011, 17:02 »
The mk6 GTD is not in the same class bracket as a GTI. I mean there's Saxo's that beat the GTD. It's around 1.5 secs slower than the GTI and the slouch wont even hit 140. Plus you'll look a cheap ba5tard for not buying a GTI.

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I was in convoy with a GTD on the way to Inters this year..nothing in it performance wise at motorway speeds.

My mate also has a Mk5 170 TDI, and there is so little in it on a back road, it's all up to the driver (and the Mk5 170 TDI and Mk6 GTD are so very similar one can be compared to the other performance wise, handling wise etc)

A GTI and GTD are trading gains/losses everywhere...GTI is faster for those who live their lives 14 seconds at a time....or need the extra 15 MPH at jail type speeds...real world, backroads, dual carridgeways, motorways etc, there is little in it.
The GTI is slightly quicker evetywhere if worked...but it is a slight difference, in the real world, where the cars actually drive.

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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #7 on: 29 June 2011, 17:05 »
Am a mk4 owner and thinking of changing to a MK6 having spoken to VW. But does the same apply to mk6's as mk4's that 2.0L's Golf GTI / GTD is slow?

I have a 1.9 at min 130 but stage 1 remap and want power and want to stick to dervs.

A standard GTD will murder a Stage 1 Mk4 130 everywhere...the engine is more flexible, the chassis FAR beter and the traction control/ESP in a different league...so it's more usable, more of the time.

You won't be disappointed with a GTI or GTD.

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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #8 on: 29 June 2011, 17:16 »

A standard GTD will murder a Stage 1 Mk4 130 everywhere...the engine is more flexible, the chassis FAR beter and the traction control/ESP in a different league...so it's more usable, more of the time.



I think murder is a bit strong. On bragging rights, the GTD will be quicker, but in real terms on public roads, there will be bugger all difference. The advantage that the GTD will have over the Mk4 is it is a far nicer place to sit in and makes even the very best Mk4 seem like a very old car.
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Re: MK4 to MK6
« Reply #9 on: 29 June 2011, 17:22 »
I think murder is a bit strong. On bragging rights, the GTD will be quicker, but in real terms on public roads, there will be bugger all difference. The advantage that the GTD will have over the Mk4 is it is a far nicer place to sit in and makes even the very best Mk4 seem like a very old car.

I was referring to the package..power, traction, cornering, braking etc...the Mk6 is so far ahead of the abysmal Mk4 is's scarcely believable they were only one generation apart (The Mk6 is only a tweaked Mk5 after all).

You show both a twisty, challenging back road...and the Mk4 won't see which way the Mk6 goes.
The difference is very real...Mk4 TDI to Mk6 GTD (or Mk5 170 TDI for that matter).

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