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Offline daz veedub

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Re: 312mm brakes
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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #11 on: 05 June 2011, 21:04 »
fair enough i'll get some plain discs thanks guys  :wink:

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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #12 on: 05 June 2011, 21:16 »
Surely if grooved and drilled discs were so bad.. porsche.. lambo.. Audi .. etc etc.. who spend MILLIONS designing cars each year why dont they use plain discs ?? It cant just be because they look good they must have a practical use.. 99% of cars which have big brakes have grooved discs..
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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #13 on: 05 June 2011, 21:18 »
Surely if grooved and drilled discs were so bad.. porsche.. lambo.. Audi .. etc etc.. who spend MILLIONS designing cars each year why dont they use plain discs ?? It cant just be because they look good they must have a practical use.. 99% of cars which have big brakes have grooved discs..

Not bad at all - " Drilled Discs:
 
A common misconception is that the purpose of drilled discs is to promote cooling. This couldn't be further from the truth, The real purpose is to reduce weight.

Drilling can allow brake dust and gases to escape, but with modern brake pads, this usually isn't a problem. Choosing a drilled disc for that purpose doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Many high performance cars like Porsche and Mercedes AMG come with drilled discs from the factory. For these cars, the drilling is mainly about the looks, just like bright red calipers. When people do serious high-performance driving on a trackdays, they usually swap to regular plain discs.

Drilled discs generally wear out brake pads faster and produce much more brake dust as a result.

Drilled discs have a shorter service-life than plain discs and tend to develop stress fissures/cracks over their lifetime "

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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #14 on: 05 June 2011, 21:28 »
Yes the drilling is to save weight... does it reduce disc life, maybe i doubt you would even notice.. does it eat through pads not from any of my friends cars with them fitted ( maybe marginally over plain )... and you say about track days, i went BTCC 6 weeks or so ago and they dont run plain discs, is it just because they want to look good ??  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:
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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #15 on: 05 June 2011, 21:35 »
Yes the drilling is to save weight... does it reduce disc life, maybe i doubt you would even notice.. does it eat through pads not from any of my friends cars with them fitted ( maybe marginally over plain )... and you say about track days, i went BTCC 6 weeks or so ago and they dont run plain discs, is it just because they want to look good ??  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:

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# Grooved Discs

# Grooved discs keep the pad surface clean and allow certain gasses to escape which improves performance. not too many grooves though, you only need 6 or so, anymore and it it just for looks(e.g tarox cheese graters)
# For street driving they may make a marginal improvement in initial brake "bite"
# Grooved Discs are great for shedding water and mud off the rotor surface as in Rally racing or wet-weather racing.
# Grooved Discs do accelerate pad wear and produce more dust just like drilled discs do. They also add noise and vibration into the system. For many these issues are annoying enough to not choose grooved discs, unless you do alot of rallying!

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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #16 on: 05 June 2011, 21:36 »
Standard discs with uprated pads is the best bet.

Drilled discs tend to crack.

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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #17 on: 05 June 2011, 21:39 »
Dan you're comparing HIGH PERFORMANCE cars to the humble MK4  :grin: :grin:

Plain discs FTW  :wink:

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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #18 on: 05 June 2011, 21:43 »
Dan you're comparing HIGH PERFORMANCE cars to the humble MK4  :grin: :grin:

Plain discs FTW  :wink:

Good point im gona sit in the corner now  :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: 312mm brakes
« Reply #19 on: 05 June 2011, 22:24 »
easy to do mate, whip the old ones off and new carriers go straight on.... bolts are tight as f*uck tho for the Carriers so best get the big guns out!!
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