Changes to new drivers soon?

[cняis]

I do think there should be restrictions on the power output of car someone can drive, up until an age of say 21 then let them drive what they want.  I know that someobody can still kill someone driving like an idiot in a fiat panda, but they are far less likely to show off in that than in a hot hatch.

BHP caps are flawed...

Lets say we cap BHP to 100bhp.

100bhp in a tin can (i.e. 106) is pretty rapid, and a 106 at speed is likely to become squashed in a crash.

Is this or is this not more dangerous than say 110bhp in a mondeo (which would take PROBABLY a million years to reach the national speed limit)

[Len]

Yea ban young drivers from Motorways! yah!

Well they get no tuition on it so why should they pass the driving test and immediately be able to drive on them!?

[Rhyso]

Whilst I'd welcome making driving on motorways part of the training how would you enforce it in areas which are miles away from motorways??

The nearest stretch of motorway when I lived back home was 50 miles away..........

BHP won't work.  The Nissan Micra I used had 75bhp and was good for triple figures 

The training needs and should include ALL aspects of driving from night to poor conditions.  Training on different types of roads is the hardest part as some people don't live near these types of roads i.e I didn't as per the above

[Bellend]

Issues IMO.

-Taught to emergancy stop by whacking.in the brakes and maintaining pressure. Fine if you're in the little Corsa I learned in, do that in a country lane in my MK3 and it will go sideways. I was never taught anything other then whack on the brake, I already worked it out tho.

- Understeer. Go round a roundabout and even my 1.6 will suddenly understeer if you gun it in 2nd or 3rd.

- Oversteer and how just lifting off makes it worse.

- Brake fade in older cars, this, linked with:

-How much more braking required with a full car

Nearly had a nasty accident cause I went downhill, off a slip road and brake fade and the extra weight made the braking distance double, without locking up, easy. Luckilly it's a do it once and learn thing.

No motorway teaching at all. I just went on it and leanrt as I went. Ok I was fine but still.


They need to focus on bad condition driving and not use new cars. Make a crash course on skid pans etc in old bangers.

Somehow make it easy for people to understand over and undeesteer.

[Shady Pioneer]

The Bellend makes a good point about teaching people in older cars. It's not very often younger drivers get to buy a car similar to that they had learnt in. No ABS, no power steering etc.

[MrBounce]

When I got my first car back in '93 (16-year old Mini 1000) I went onto the local airfield carpark (wet grass) and got my mates to pull the handbrake at random which taught me a hell of a lot about car control.

I think the main issue is convincing young people that they are NOT invincible and WILL get hurt or hurt others by driving like a twonk. "It won't happen to me" is the worst thing they can think of. However, everybody does it. I know I did. Then I nearly fell off the road at high speed. It can happen and most likely will.

[cняis]

The Bellend makes a good point about teaching people in older cars. It's not very often younger drivers get to buy a car similar to that they had learnt in. No ABS, no power steering etc.

Also these young'uns relying on using the rev counter for changing gears??!? Whatever next?

They should be made to take tests in mk1 fiestas, no pas, no abs, no rev counter.... perfect that and we may have some safer young drivers around!

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[luke]

not being harsh but some posts are hypocritical, if you lot had these restrictions you wouldn't be happy, i didn't get a car until a year after i passed, didn't have a reason to go on the motorway for a month until i went to visit my grandma in leicester, then got used to the motorway more and some times heading up the m1 to melton mowbray to see a friend, then eventually went on the m6 all the way from leicestershire to blackpool and also recently done to manchester and back, i drive every day without a doubt for either college or work, my grandad always told me "drive like everyone around you is an idiot", holding teenagers back from driving at certain points won't be helping with there experience at all, it will most likely make them more nervous for when the time comes and might make mistakes, i do think they should make the driving test a tad harder to pass as i felt it was easy enough, just like a driving lesson.
rant over 

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[Jimp]

Learner drivers are not allowed on motorways in Ireland. They still use them and nobody cares because it was a stupid rule in the first place.
There were talks of not allowing young drivers on the road after 11pm but last I heard it was thrown out because it was a really stupid idea. People who want to be tearing around back roads at 4am will continue to do so and the majority of drivers who follow the rules will be the ones hit.
Likewise with a recent suggestion of fitting limiters to the cars of young drivers limiting them to 80 or 100kmph. The guys who want to go faster will remove the limiter and go faster. It also won't change the fact that 60kmph is way too fast on some roads. Most young driver deaths on Irish roads are because of guys tearing down a country lane at 100kmph with 4 mates in the car when that road is only safe if taken at 60kmph or less.
These are ideas that sound great in theory but in practice won't change really change anything.