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Offline dansmk3

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Gti 2E engine problem
« on: 23 May 2011, 13:56 »
Hi Guys,

Am looking for some help with my 2E engine.

To start off with, my cambelt went on me when pulling out of a junction the other day. so i managed to get the car towed home.
i bought a new timing kit fitted it and it would not start, and the timing was spot on. so i bought a complete head off of ebay which "came off of a running engine". when i got it i cleaned it up good using injector and carb cleaner. i done the same for the pistons too.

obv have fitted new head gasket when reassembling the engine. have got everything back on, stuck the timing belt on quite a few times until i got the timing spot on again and she runs, but she runs like a dog, propper restricted and very very lumpy. wont rev above 3000rpm. i thought it could be a blockage so sat with foot reving at 2000rpm for about 10mins and then noticed the cat had started to glow. so i soon stopped that. lol.

i have just altered the ignition timing so that when everything was at TDC the dizzy was alsao at its no1 mark and has still not made any difference.

has anyone got any ideas? because i am starting to lose patience with this now. its been 3weeks! i love my car but iv got a hatred for her atm. lol

cheers guys
« Last Edit: 14 June 2011, 16:41 by dansmk3 »
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Offline Wayne

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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #1 on: 23 May 2011, 15:29 »
Sounds like your timing is out
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #2 on: 23 May 2011, 15:36 »
cheers for replying wayne.

i pretty certain the timing is spot on, ill let the car run for a couple of minutes, switch off and crank to tdc by hand and everything is lining up where it should. i have even taken the green bung out of the gearbox and can see the tdc mark in there too.

one thing i was tempted to do was completely remove the lower cam belt cover and then put the belt on as i would then see if im a tooth out. but what is frustrating is even after running the car it will still line up at tdc both at the cam and the crank and even the gearbox.

sorry to ramble on mate jus want this sorted and dont like paying garages if i can help it  :smiley: :smiley:
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #3 on: 23 May 2011, 15:40 »
defo sounds like a timing issue

fuel air mixtures wrong making cat get hot

bet your manifolds a bit redder also  :shocked:
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #4 on: 23 May 2011, 15:46 »
yeah you know that! loool! must admit started to sh1t maself a little bit when i looked under the car!!!

can you guys suggest any other ways to get the timing spot on then?

when i put the belt on it obv goes round the crank, then i will put it around the aux sprocket, now what i do next is take up all the slack and put it over the cam then tensioner. have i been doing this correctly?  :embarassed:

i will admit the haynes manual or mk3 golf gti is total crap! they jemp from one engine code to the other!!!
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #5 on: 23 May 2011, 16:07 »
I would also check your ign. timing.
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #6 on: 23 May 2011, 16:13 »
Its likely to be ignition timing to far retarded if its glowing like that. 
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #7 on: 23 May 2011, 16:15 »
ignition timing - i checked that this morning, i took the belt off and rotated the aux sprocket til the rotar arm of the dizzy was pointing to the no1 mark on the distributor then put belt back on exactly how it was, i know that because i marked the top of the belt at tdc before i took it off.

unless what i done this morning was not the ignition timing??  :sick:
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #8 on: 23 May 2011, 16:19 »
Sounds like your timing is out.  (or perhaps a tooth out on your cambelt?)

Should be 6 degrees BTDC if memory serves me correct but these things change with each engine code! Keep in mind that the ECU will automatically adjust the timing as you rev (ie. using a strobelight is basically useless).

Good luck!
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Re: Gti 2E engine problem
« Reply #9 on: 23 May 2011, 16:25 »
ah god this is getting to me now lol!

tempted to just buy a new lump lol!

see the haynes manual says nothing about 6o btdc and nothing about atdc! on the crank i have a blue coloured notch which is lined up with the arrow on the lower cam belt cover, then the crank has a blue mark on a notch with O on the left and T on the right, and that is lined up with the same marks on the rocker cover.

i take it the O and the T mean On Top as in TDC? this is really baffling me now and am usually quite good with fixing things on my car lol

would you advise to buy a timing strobe to check the timing? or even better anyone that knows their stuff live in or near london????  :grin:
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