MK2 turbo

[VeeDubGTI16v]

16v head design is better than the 20v's? jeez it must be bad 

[mwep201081]

Money/time/effort are all big factors

The OP never said this so you are assuming. Maybe the OP has an enthusiasm for engine building, as opposed to operating an engine crane......

[danny_p]

Never said it was the best engine (hence mentioning r36's etc). But if you wanna rebuild an old 16v made out of a shopping list of 2nd hand parts, and then manage it, sure, but I'd rather grab a bam lump, forge it, qpeng it, and drive it.its like saying well I've got an old 'a' series engine, if I do everything to it it'll be better than a 20v?!sure if you want to. 16vt was cool 15years ago, just look at caistor bmxs fooked engine!! 20 valve isn't THE best engine available, but for £'s, and ease of getting a good one, plus spares, plus upgrades it kicks the fook out of a 16vt. Didn't realise the heads were worse tho?! I guess people have tested and proved that yeah..?

so i get an ABF lump, forge it.  add a rollerbearing garret,  and manage it with say omex.  proably cost less and i'll be making more than 275 bhp

[emery1990]

Caisters blew because of old school management and not having a afr gauge, you'd have to run it off a modern ecu if doing it. I think the 20vt power delivery is sh!t! runs out of puff at 5500rpm 

How cheap can you actually do it for, turbo a 16v. £1000 ? minus management.

[Chris-White]

How cheap can you actually do it for, turbo a 16v. £1000 ? minus management.

the setup that always bobs around my head is (as i sorta said earlier) - audi s2 exhaust manifold cut 'n welded 5th runner, audi s2 turbo, hacked up standard inlet manifold cut 'n shut to bring the TB across, s2 pistons & rods, G60 management with a chip from ebay.de for this exact setup, generic BOV

the only issues being that the K24 is water and oil cooled, and possibly boost control (run it on WG pressure with a bleed valve and be very careful when first setting up?)

the other option i keep thinking of is early volvo turbo management as they ran a version of CIS

i reckon this could be done for a grand with shrewd buying and knowing what your letting yourself in for.

[torontovka]

thank you guys

will not go for that project,,, since My E34 540i6 V8 has a 450 Hp on wheel, so better to keep this car for slow drive and wife


regards

[Chris-White]

My E34 540i6 V8 has a 450 Hp on wheel,

pics?!!

[danny_p]

a slightly tweeked NA 16v    is probaly a good engine choice   they arn't as fas as the turboed stuff but as uch if not more fun to drive

[tomp]

I have got to disagree, the 16v turbo (8 injector - kstar) is an awesome car to drive and very reliable, I am rebuilding mine after over 10 years since I originally built the engine. I am only rebuilding the engine as a precaution since I am completely overhauling the entire car as the body was getting a bit shabby. It still runs fine but the timing chain is a bit noisy, so while I am at it its not that big a deal to change the seals in the head, decoke etc.

I have had lots of mk2's, the normally aspirated 16v is a great car, BUT with a turbo its awesome, the power delivery is unbelievable, I have hit the rev limiter in 5th gear, it just pulls and pulls and pulls. Musing a NOS kit for some extra fun at the moment, the car is a toy and I like gadgets!

The kstar does the job fine, I have absolutely no intention of changing it, alot of time was dedicated to mapping it properly, it had over a day on Stealth's rollers to get it setup right. I am not up to date on other management systems but I know that the kstar allows me to control fuel and ignition retard/advance at any point in the rev range, water injection keeps everything cool, it just works....

[Diamond Hell]

I have got to disagree, the 16v turbo (8 injector - kstar) is an awesome car to drive and very reliable

Very probably, but do find an ABF on OEM management to try out.