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Offline Neo Badness

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Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« on: 21 April 2011, 11:05 »
I have seen people running ABF's on Kjet, just wondered if you can, and if so what benefit, you would get from running a KR on Digi 3?

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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #1 on: 21 April 2011, 11:57 »
Someone was running k-jet on a abf and got 153bhp on the rollers. Don't know if they were using kr head though.
I thought about digi 3 on my kr. In theory should be a little bit better as the fueling is worked out better.

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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #2 on: 21 April 2011, 12:26 »
If fitting an ABF then run factory managment.

No benefit in running K jet if anything it is a backward step.

Simples :smiley:

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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #3 on: 21 April 2011, 14:07 »
closest you cvan get to this oem is the SEAT ADL lump, uses a dumbed down version of the abf management. the trouble is kr has no crank sensor so you would need to add one, either with custom mounted trigger wheel on the crank pulley or using oem polo crank seal with crank sensor at the gearbox end.

all a bit of a pain in the arse really when you could just drop the whole engine in!
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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #4 on: 21 April 2011, 14:28 »
closest you cvan get to this oem is the SEAT ADL lump, uses a dumbed down version of the abf management. the trouble is kr has no crank sensor so you would need to add one, either with custom mounted trigger wheel on the crank pulley or using oem polo crank seal with crank sensor at the gearbox end.

all a bit of a pain in the arse really when you could just drop the whole engine in!

This was pretty much my thinking that it would most likely work out simpler to fit the whole ABF, but was just wondering what the problem with fitting electronic injection to the KR would be. Idea being retaining the 1800cc and not having to declare an increase in capacity to the insurance but getting better peformance and economy from an EFi system. As said was just hypothetical.

Next question, what's the deal with insurance after an engine swap?

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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #5 on: 21 April 2011, 14:53 »
if you can find an adl ecu + loom its dead simple, but they are pretty hard to find. im with hic they base the insurance from the car it came from, so try to find something boring like an alhambra to get your abf from ;)
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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #6 on: 21 April 2011, 15:41 »
if you can find an adl ecu + loom its dead simple, but they are pretty hard to find. im with hic they base the insurance from the car it came from, so try to find something boring like an alhambra to get your abf from ;)

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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #7 on: 21 April 2011, 16:49 »
if you can find an adl ecu + loom its dead simple, but they are pretty hard to find. im with hic they base the insurance from the car it came from, so try to find something boring like an alhambra to get your abf from ;)

Interesting regarding the adl ecu idea. Did speak to my insurance company and they said they would take it from the, as you pointed out, donor car. I have an ABF from my mk3 Golf, which is Grp 16 as apposed to the mk2 which is Grp15 :undecided:

How would they check what vehicle the engine came from? Engine number? What if you just bought the engine from a private sale with no doc's or from a scrappy? I know they a cracking down on it (read more awkward for law abiding people) in that if you don't have a V5 and regestration it makes life v difficult when you come to insure it.

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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #8 on: 21 April 2011, 18:28 »
in that case tell them its from a low insurance abf engine'd car  :wink:
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Re: Hypothetical ABF/ KR question
« Reply #9 on: 21 April 2011, 18:39 »
Yer find the slowest abf engined car as possible, mine 9A was from a passat and is less bhp that a kr in tock form! 136 compared to 139bhp  :laugh: So should mine be cheaper.