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Offline Snooze

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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #30 on: 29 March 2011, 20:06 »
Thanks for all your comments guys.  Doh as I suspected  :sad:  Gonna call the main dealer 2moz and see what they have to say about the matter.  Dont really wanna have to pay for another oil service unless I absolutely have to.  Will keep you updated!  Cheers
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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #31 on: 30 March 2011, 08:15 »
To Primus and all,

Just off the phone to the parts manager at my dealership...who I must admit sounded like he knows his stuff (not some YTS teenager).

Got him to put my VIN into ETKA and he got exactly the same screen as primus's print on page 2.

However...he did caveat it all stating that ETKA will only show the settings for your particular car "the way it left the factory".  On VW system my car is flagged as being on Longlife servicing, but a previous owner changed the regime to Time & Distance...which means the lower grade oil is acceptable.

As I am on the Fixed 2 Year service deal, which only applies to T&D regimes, then I now feel I have no basis for complaint.

You win some...you lose some...!!!
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Offline Primus84

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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #32 on: 30 March 2011, 08:29 »
Not true, VW now state that any LongLife enabled car (any car produced since 2001 basically) must use LL oil whether it is on LL servicing or not. This dealership needs naming and shaming as they sound like absolute muppets!

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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #33 on: 30 March 2011, 08:54 »
Primus,

I hear what you are saying...but I can't print out this thread and walk into my dealer with it and say "look, you need to put LL oil in my car".

VW customer services dept agree with the dealer.

Don't get me wrong...I totally believe what you say is correct...but I can't prove it.

Thanks again for your help.


Offline Primus84

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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #34 on: 30 March 2011, 09:07 »
It's a shame elsawin no longer exists otherwise you could print off the exact paperwork to prove the garage wrong.

If the parts manager says that ETKA lists the car for as it left the factory then you need to ask him why it updates - my print screen previously posted shows both 5w-30 and 0w-30 but now only lists 5w-30 - the new LL oil standards.

Notice how it does list non-long life oils but they are greyed out - this is because they are deprecated and are no longer to be used - this is the proof that the dealership are wrong!

Like I say it's an older print screen so currently ETKA only lists 504 oil which is the 5w-30 on the print screen and the 0w-30 is 503 and is now not to be used. If you need to see it more clearly then try this link: http://img527.imageshack.us/f/etkaoilll.jpg/

But like I say it's slightly out of date and only 504 oil which is the 5w-30 is approved!

ETKA does not list just factory configuration - it is the VW system for identifying authorised parts and that includes consumables such as oil.

Name and shame.

I'd also get on to VW CS and make more of this, they simply should not be using the wrong oil, it's a basic error!

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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #35 on: 30 March 2011, 09:59 »
just spoke to Charlotte in customer services...0800 0833 920

she spoke to technical for some time on two occasions during my call

the answer to the question - I am on T&D servicing, MUST the dealer put LL oil in my car...? - was NO

there isn't and never has been an edict/memo/notification to the dealers saying that the answer is YES

feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall...and it hurts...!!!

anyway...sorry to say, but this matter is now over for me...apologies if I have let the side down

thank you all for your comments

PS - the dealership in question is Specialist Cars in Aberdeen

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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #36 on: 30 March 2011, 13:22 »
Just spoke to main dealer, and they said I should be using 5w 30.  Looks like ill be going back to the garage where I had my car serviced and getting them to change it  :sad:
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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #37 on: 30 March 2011, 16:58 »
Glad Snooze had a positive outcome.

Shame it wasn't so for KingBilly, biggest shame is that as always VW CS is so poor!

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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #38 on: 30 March 2011, 19:02 »
If the Garage refuses to do it free of charge, im thinking about doing the oil change myself.  My girlfriends old man is pretty handy when it comes to cars.  I just wondered is it really neccessary to change the oil filter aswell?  Seeing as the garage put a new one in just last week when they serviced it with the wrong oil! (0w 30).  If so, is changing the oil filter a tricky job, where can I buy one and how much does it cost?  I can pick up a 5L bottle of fully synthetic 5w 30 oil from Halfords for about £40.  Any advice would be gratefully received!  Thanks
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Re: Golf gti mk5 oil grades?!
« Reply #39 on: 31 March 2011, 13:42 »
I'll guess 50% of GTI's have other than VW approved oil in their sumps.  Garages (even main dealers) just seem to have a large barrel of oil that does for everything.  If my car had the oil the OP has I'd just leave it in for the year.  Main thing with this engine is to keep the oil topped up, because when you thrash them they can really use it.

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