Author Topic: Hope this doesnt cause too much trouble ....... N/A v's Turbo  (Read 3212 times)

Offline snifferdog

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Just wondering if the turbo is that much better than the N/A 1.8 20v?! To cut straight to the point, my mk4 is a great family car and super comfy. Its just that it feels so slow and boring and thats comparing it to my mk3 8v - which feels like a rocket powered go-kart in comparison. I know the turbo is more tuneable and that makes it 'better' but what about in standard trim, considering the N/A is 125bhp it doesnt really feel like it until about 4k revs.

To clarify, Im not dissing the N/A mk4, I love mine, but if I had bought it for gti kicks then Id be quite disappointed.


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I'll just go and get the pop corn ready!  :wink:

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Why do you think the NA version was dropped  :wink:


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Yeah but it was replaced with a 2.0 115 bhp  :huh: So was this engine an improvement over the 1.8 20v N/A?

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Yeah but it was replaced with a 2.0 115 bhp  :huh: So was this engine an improvement over the 1.8 20v N/A?

No  :laugh:

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2.slow was never badged as a GTI IIRC


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Offline Wayne

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2.slow was never badged as a GTI IIRC

Only for the GB market was a highline in all other markets.

Turbo is a lot better as when you get bored you can remap it.

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that was it...


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2.slow was never badged as a GTI IIRC

Only for the GB market was a highline in all other markets.

Turbo is a lot better as when you get bored you can remap it.
i was bored as soon as i drove the 1.8t from standard.. getting bored of my stage one now too...  was great at first... :grin: all booked for stage 2 k03s on wednesday.. hope all goes well.

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NA engines are good fun, as they usually have a higher rev band compared to a forced induction engine. But power production licks balls unless you start to really up the displacement.

Turbo's on other hand are efficient, due to re-using exhuast gases to spin up the turbine, high power production in smaller displacement due to compression. Down side is lag, but on small turbo's like k03/4 this is not a major issue. Then remember the torque production of a turbo engine  :wink: Oh and noise  :rolleyes:

Plus you are comparing a NA with hardly any torque, to a 150bhp engine with a considerable amount of torque in comparison, never understood how they could even brand it as a GTI in the UK market and how the 2.0 was so ghey. But the 1.8t is a good engine, its just a shame its never came with a ko4 as the k03+s lick balls in terms of grin factor IMO. Which is why a k04 will be my next step as I don't have deep pockets for a Garett or IHI.


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