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WHICH MK3 GOLF IS THE BEST OF THE BUNCH AND WHAT SHOULD I LOOK OUT FOR?

GTI 8V
15 (35.7%)
GTI 16V
16 (38.1%)
VR6
11 (26.2%)

Total Members Voted: 42

Author Topic: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?  (Read 10614 times)

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #50 on: 03 March 2011, 14:09 »
I really think the 8v gets way to much flank for what the car actually is.Its only 115bhp it was never going to be a rocket but it isnt slow either.8v and 16v 0-60 are vertually the same if anythink I would say the 8v might just nick it due the 16v doesnt really open up till it hits the higher revs I agree once it does the 16v comes into its own but its should do its 35bhp more.The VR6 sounds great when you boot it cant beat the sound of that V6 but thats it really I still think that there is very little between the the 16v and the VR if the VR didnt sound the way it did they wouldnt be as popular as they are.

A straight line race between an 8v and 16v would be decided by the driver tbh, if you nailed every gear change in an 8v and whoever was in the 16v fluffed one then that could decide it!

Sorry but no. 35hp difference + power on for longer is a big difference.

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #51 on: 03 March 2011, 14:24 »
People forget how easy it is to mod a VR!

The mods i have done to my VR would not get the same results with a 16v or 8v

Decat, cat back system and a BMC CDA saw a 13.5bhp increase!  :evil: :cool:

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #52 on: 03 March 2011, 14:38 »
I really think the 8v gets way to much flank for what the car actually is.Its only 115bhp it was never going to be a rocket but it isnt slow either.8v and 16v 0-60 are vertually the same if anythink I would say the 8v might just nick it due the 16v doesnt really open up till it hits the higher revs I agree once it does the 16v comes into its own but its should do its 35bhp more.The VR6 sounds great when you boot it cant beat the sound of that V6 but thats it really I still think that there is very little between the the 16v and the VR if the VR didnt sound the way it did they wouldnt be as popular as they are.

A straight line race between an 8v and 16v would be decided by the driver tbh, if you nailed every gear change in an 8v and whoever was in the 16v fluffed one then that could decide it!

Sorry but no. 35hp difference + power on for longer is a big difference.

I disagree, on paper there isn't much more than a second between the 0-60 times, one messed up gear change could easily decide it.

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #53 on: 03 March 2011, 14:40 »
I really think the 8v gets way to much flank for what the car actually is.Its only 115bhp it was never going to be a rocket but it isnt slow either.8v and 16v 0-60 are vertually the same if anythink I would say the 8v might just nick it due the 16v doesnt really open up till it hits the higher revs I agree once it does the 16v comes into its own but its should do its 35bhp more.The VR6 sounds great when you boot it cant beat the sound of that V6 but thats it really I still think that there is very little between the the 16v and the VR if the VR didnt sound the way it did they wouldnt be as popular as they are.

A straight line race between an 8v and 16v would be decided by the driver tbh, if you nailed every gear change in an 8v and whoever was in the 16v fluffed one then that could decide it!

Sorry but no. 35hp difference + power on for longer is a big difference.

I disagree, on paper there isn't much more than a second between the 0-60 times, one messed up gear change could easily decide it.

On paper, but the real world is different.

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #54 on: 03 March 2011, 14:48 »
I see a fast and a furious type race happening here...

8v Dom v 16v Khare... :grin: :grin:

At the end of the day whether or not a driver fluffs the gear changes, doesn't make one car quicker then the other. Fact is the 8v is slower..

Having been behind a VR6 when i had my 8v and both putting our foots down, i was left in the dark!!

Now my VR6 is quicker then his!!

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #55 on: 03 March 2011, 14:51 »
I see a fast and a furious type race happening here...

8v Dom v 16v Khare... :grin: :grin:

At the end of the day whether or not a driver fluffs the gear changes, doesn't make one car quicker then the other. Fact is the 8v is slower..

Having been behind a VR6 when i had my 8v and both putting our foots down, i was left in the dark!!

Now my VR6 is quicker then his!!

I'm not disputing the fact that it is quicker, i'm just saying it's not that much quicker :smiley:

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #56 on: 03 March 2011, 15:27 »
I see a fast and a furious type race happening here...

8v Dom v 16v Khare... :grin: :grin:

At the end of the day whether or not a driver fluffs the gear changes, doesn't make one car quicker then the other. Fact is the 8v is slower..

Having been behind a VR6 when i had my 8v and both putting our foots down, i was left in the dark!!

Now my VR6 is quicker then his!!

I'm not disputing the fact that it is quicker, i'm just saying it's not that much quicker :smiley:


Your right it is not much quicker.  :smiley:

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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #57 on: 03 March 2011, 17:16 »
People will always argue on this one usually the 16v owners saying how rapid the valver is when truth is they ent rapid at all not upto 60-70mph anyway.Sorry to say it as well but the VR ent much better both only really prove there worth when you get upto 70 -80 mph then they do pull well through the gears.Just my point that the 8v gets way to much stick considering its not the one with the `150 to 172 bhp.
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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #58 on: 03 March 2011, 18:04 »
Having owned a standard 8v, modified 8v and a 16v I can say the 16v is the quickest of the 3 by far. The standard 8v was pretty poor to be honest, it's not 1.1 saxo slow, but it's not quick. The modified 8v was more lively and it was great until just under 5800 rmp, then it lost the will to live completely. The 16v is a completely different machine. It loves being revved and the harder you push it the harder it rewards you unlike the 16v. It pulls very smoothly and evenly all the way to the limiter. The modified 8v would get a nice push at 3500 rpm till about 4600 rpm, then again at 5000 rpm to 5400rpm then give up 5800rpm. The 16v is far more progressive and feels smooth and even all the way round the rev range. Above 4000rpm it'll push you back into the seat pretty firmly and it'll happily delivery smooth linear power to the limiter at 6800rpm, without loosing puff like the modified 8v.

Here are the charts from the 3, look for yourselves. 16v, modified 8v then standard 8v.







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Re: MK3 GTI 8V OR 16V OR VR6?
« Reply #59 on: 03 March 2011, 18:34 »
I struggle to believe that an 8v would stand much of a chance against a 16v.  I was driving to the 8ball diner with an 8v and whenever we both put our foot down I left him behind.  Admittedly this was between 40-70 and 50-70, but can't really blame the driver as we were both in third or fourth at the same times...
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