K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!

[AudiA8Quattro]

Fact no.1 - Stock air intakes are restrictive.
Fact no.2 - Paper air filters are about as restrictive as you can get.

Its not mickey mouse physics at all. Open up say a 16v air box for example on a mk2. It is very restrictive to air flow.
 
Fact no.3 - Paper air filter do not flow as well as k&n filters(cotton fibre i believe)

Fact no.4 - Better air flow means better engine responsive.

Try drilling the wing side of the airbox on a 16v and remove the trumpet, then add a k&n panel filter.
It makes a considerable improvement to the driveability of the car, in general much better throttle reponse and improved mid range torque. It should be noted however that top end performance was not really noticeably improved.
I should know, i have owned 2 16v's.
I don't dispute that doing these mods will have a huge impact, they won't, that is obvious.
However its very basic physics, people that try to claim its false, well need to go back to school really 

[AudiA8Quattro]

Just for you Tinman, i'm going to re-post what i put earlier in this thread. Make a comment on it if you wish 


I can't speak for an 8v, but on a vr6 it makes a huge difference.
I had an induction kit on the vr, it was great apart from there was a horrible whistling noise between 2000 and 3000 rpm.
I put a standard air box back in with a standard filter, and the engine was so flat, no power until over 4000 rpm.
I drilled the box wing side, and removed the trumpet, put a k&n panel in, and bloody hell what a difference.
The pick up is amazing, just to emphasise the point, with a k&n on it, the traction control cuts in 1st gear, if i really hammer it (i've got sh!t cheap front tyres), this didn't happen at all with a standard airbox.
I'd like to see the so called internet 'experts' that reckon filters just make a noise explain that one.

[free]

ur rite there 6, 

[tinman]

Fact no.1 - Stock air intakes are restrictive.
Fact no.2 - Paper air filters are about as restrictive as you can get.

Its not mickey mouse physics at all. Open up say a 16v air box for example on a mk2. It is very restrictive to air flow.
 
Fact no.3 - Paper air filter do not flow as well as k&n filters(cotton fibre i believe)

Fact no.4 - Better air flow means better engine responsive.

Try drilling the wing side of the airbox on a 16v and remove the trumpet, then add a k&n panel filter.
It makes a considerable improvement to the driveability of the car, in general much better throttle reponse and improved mid range torque. It should be noted however that top end performance was not really noticeably improved.
I should know, i have owned 2 16v's.
I don't dispute that doing these mods will have a huge impact, they won't, that is obvious.
However its very basic physics, people that try to claim its false, well need to go back to school really?

damn those VAG Engine designers, they obviously know nothing about engine design....right, wheres my black&decker, i'm gonna drill an airbox...

[VeeDubGTI16v]

do you know what regulations, or restrictions etc are tinman? sorry silly question as you being the all knowing

[vaughn]

as the start of this thread states, k&n induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!. does it? oviously on some cars it does, on some cars not that much, down to your own taste me thinks, f**k physics, if you`ve got a car with standard suspension, and sh!t tyres with a k&n induction kit on is it going to go round a track quicker than the same car with coilovers and good tyres me thinks not, as i said before PERSONAL PREFERANCE. you`ve just got to think why you want one

[AudiA8Quattro]

Fact no.1 - Stock air intakes are restrictive.
Fact no.2 - Paper air filters are about as restrictive as you can get.

Its not mickey mouse physics at all. Open up say a 16v air box for example on a mk2. It is very restrictive to air flow.
 
Fact no.3 - Paper air filter do not flow as well as k&n filters(cotton fibre i believe)

Fact no.4 - Better air flow means better engine responsive.

Try drilling the wing side of the airbox on a 16v and remove the trumpet, then add a k&n panel filter.
It makes a considerable improvement to the driveability of the car, in general much better throttle reponse and improved mid range torque. It should be noted however that top end performance was not really noticeably improved.
I should know, i have owned 2 16v's.
I don't dispute that doing these mods will have a huge impact, they won't, that is obvious.
However its very basic physics, people that try to claim its false, well need to go back to school really?

damn those VAG Engine designers, they obviously know nothing about engine design....right, wheres my black&decker, i'm gonna drill an airbox...

Oh dear, you really don't understand do you?
Lets make it simple just for you Tinman, yet again.

VAG designers know everything about engine design, the air intake is DELIBERATELY restrictive to KEEP NOISE LEVEL DOWN.
I hope that puts it in simple enough terms for you.

[tinman]

its really simple.

if you want speed - dont buy an 8v. save your money and do a Dizzie or buy something fast in the first place.

[AudiA8Quattro]

its really simple.

if you want speed - dont buy an 8v. save your money and do a Dizzie or buy something fast in the first place.

Typical 16v owner 
I've got to agree with you there 

[vaughn]

oh dear oh dear oh dear

as the start of this thread states, k&n induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!. does it? oviously on some cars it does, on some cars not that much, down to your own taste me thinks, f**k physics, if you`ve got a car with standard suspension, and sh!t tyres with a k&n induction kit on is it going to go round a track quicker than the same car with coilovers and good tyres me thinks not, as i said before PERSONAL PREFERANCE. you`ve just got to think why you want one

i will say this only once PERSONAL PREFERANCE, if you`ve got a shagged engine with a k&n on and a sweet engine without which one`s going to run better me thinks the sweet engine


PERSONAL PREFERANCE