K&N induction kit makes the world of difference!!!!

[AudiA8Quattro]

Tinman, ok an 8v won't benefit that much from an induction kit.
But just to put you straight on one thing, you like many other people go on about overall power gains.
This is not what performance filters and exhausts are about.
The overall gains are never going to be that big, its the difference in the lower and mid range performance of the engine.
It simply becomes much more driveable, as the engine will be much more responsive, and will have more low/mid range torque available.
Thats what these kits are really about.
Also to anyone else, the idea that car manufacturers don't know about improving air intakes to improve power is obviously bollox, they restrict the air intake to keep noise levels to an exceptable level.
Its not exactly rocket science now is it? 

[gibby]

Some interesting points and opinions here, so a question, is there any point in me putting on a panel filter and a powerflow exhaust to give a bit more oomph or not ? 

.....and no comments about not bothering on a hairdressers car either ! 

[AudiA8Quattro]

Yeah deffo 
Just don't expect miracles, it will do pretty much as i described 

[gibby]

Cheers 6, I'm not expecting a million squillion more bhp but if it's pointless then I wasn't going to bother.

[AudiA8Quattro]

Thats ok, any time ?

[tinman]

So to all the people out there who say putting on a performance part doesn't make a differnence, well i think it does because i have to use an extreme example now, if i put a Ferrari F40 engine in my golf GTI i think that counts as a performance part and YES i would notice the F-ing difference- so just coz the K&N induction kit aint on the same levels as an F40 engine y would it not make the car faster? Can anyone answer that? And dont put stupid answers down jus coz i said an F40 engine thank you

The F40 engine is a 2.9 V8 unit with twin turbos giving 478bhp.

Here is the clue and its actually in the bit above that you wrote. Its not a "part", its an "engine". An engine is something that contains many many "parts". A Ferrari engine contains many many "performace" "parts".

Would it an F40 engine make your car faster, well, yeah, duh. But its not a performance part - its an whole F*CKING ENGINE. But then - so would a jet engine. Is a jet engine a "part" or am I getting a little "extreme"?

The one thing i will agree with you on though is that a K&N is not a Ferrari engine. Well spotted.

[tinman]

Whoooaaaa, tinman was on a mission to put the subject straight!!!!

Hungover, or pissed off by any chance???

no, just the foresight to leave a miserable icy country for a few weeks for warmer tropics and i'm a bit behind on the forums.

did i mention that the weather today in Florida was 24 degrees C?

[tinman]

so just coz the K&N induction kit aint on the same levels as an F40 engine y would it not make the car faster? Can anyone answer that?

1. cause the car was shagged in the first place...

2. everyone who puts these things on is desperate to convince themselves "its faster".

"no its faster i tell you, you see although i have no imperical data to back me up, i know its faster cause it said on the side of the box 'it'll make your car go faster' and the guy in the shop who took my money said 'it'll make your car go faster' and despite having no proof to back me up - my car really really is faster".

pulease...

now, lets get back to me drilling my airbox - cause that'll make my car go faster.....

[AudiA8Quattro]

I can't speak for an 8v.
But Tinman, you really do talk rubbish.
Read my earlier post about using stock air box, induction kits, and drilled air boxes.
On a vr6 it does make a difference, its not just because 'i think' its better.

[tinman]

I can't speak for an 8v.
But Tinman, you really do talk rubbish.
Read my earlier post about using stock air box, induction kits, and drilled air boxes.
On a vr6 it does make a difference, its not just because 'i think' its better.

my main issue regarding these upgrades is that the owners take off an old manky part - and stick on a new part and then claim a performance increase becuase of the "performance" part, when in actual fact, putting on a new VAG part would of got very similar results.

there are books that even show this with evidence to back it up. the one in mind used a Mk2 16v as the mule. the end conclusion that all these performance parts did virtually nothing for the car.

my other issue is that people put on these performance parts and offer no evidence to show better performance, apart from "it made my car go faster".

i have also seen cars that have had no K&N, and then the results with K&N - and the difference was negligable. And this was one two cars about 2 years old. the only thing the K&N did was make the engine louder and increased fuel consumption.

I've seen cars where people managed to put K&Ns on and damaged other components on their engine.

so I'm sorry, espeicially when it comes to K&N - there is a lot of mickey mouse physics going on, and depserate people trying to justify their "performance" part.


at the end of the day, it seems fairly clear, if you want a faster car, go buy one. or do what Dizzie did and stick stuffing great big engine in. but dont go to DesperateDubs or whatever they are called.