Author Topic: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?  (Read 11624 times)

Offline AdamBeevers

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mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« on: 08 February 2011, 17:24 »
just a random question. has anyone tried fitting any different ratio gearboxes to the 2.0 16v gti? just want something that pulls away a bit quicker, but i dont want it to blow up after a few months. cheers. James

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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #1 on: 08 February 2011, 19:57 »
*Cue Ess_Three's full on 16v info overload*  :wink:

I know you can make a big difference by changing the final drive ratios and sticking a lightened and balanced flywheel on.

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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #2 on: 08 February 2011, 20:16 »
3.9 final drive. Means a strip down. Lightened flywheel by hotgolf on cgti. All info on there.


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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #3 on: 08 February 2011, 21:38 »
I'm sure there are some 02A boxes with different final drives in already (but could be wrong)

I'll have a look and see if I've still got the info.

Paul

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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #4 on: 08 February 2011, 22:17 »
Id really like to hear what boxes do have a better set of ratios (if they do?) for a simple swap over (i doubt it though)
If it's a case of whipping the box open, which donor box is needed and what sort of costs should be expected for parts and labour etc?

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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #5 on: 09 February 2011, 12:23 »
After looking back for the info it seems that some of the 02A passat boxes had a higher (or is it lower) final drive in them but a different set of ratios. So a straight swop won't give you the desired effect.
Changing the final drive will increase your pulling away speed in first, and lower your overall speed in each gear. It will also lower the mph gap between each gear. In theory then for the same speed in the same gear you will be higher up the rev range with a higher final drive.

You can achieve similar results by going to lower profile tyres. If you are running 195 /50/ 15's then you could try running 195 / 45 /15's.

Don't shoot me if I've got the higher or lower the wrong way round on the final drive. A standard 02A Mk3 16v box has a final drive of 3.64 ish and you want to swop to a 3.9 ish one or go all the way and swop to a 4.24 ish one.

The 16v box has a very long third gear. If you were going the whole hog then you really need to change the final drive and some of the gear ratios.

I believe Glen (Ess Three) has done this.

Paul

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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #6 on: 09 February 2011, 12:29 »
Look through this Find the ratios you like and find what car has the gearbox code.


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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #7 on: 09 February 2011, 15:18 »
The list is a bit misleading because some (or a lot) of those 02A gearbox codes are not from Mk3's. The EBQ gearbox looks to have the same ratios but a better final drive but it is from a Mk4 Golf and Beetle so its not a direct swop.

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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #8 on: 09 February 2011, 22:33 »
It's not misleading. 02A's don't need to be from mk3s to fit. As long as it's a 4cyl it will fit.


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Re: mk3 golf gti 16v better ratio gearbox?
« Reply #9 on: 09 February 2011, 23:00 »
Sooooo....in basic form what code box would suit the ABF better than the standard one and be a straight swap over as all those ratios blow my brain?