I was having fun with a Clio Sport 172....

[Khare]

I drove a clio 172 and even though I found the steering quite heavy, it did handle well.

However below 5500rpm it had nothing! 70mph on the motorway, foot down in 5th and it wouldn't move!

[Bellend]

Only ever had a Corsa up my arse that actually incited me to race.

A LOOONG two lane road with loads of traffic lights. Did the right thing at first by letting him pull away with his mates and girls in the car, wheel spinning while I stood back.

I then pulled off, gave him two seconds and over took. The laughing he got.  

But I know mines a 1.6 and really CBA to race randomers on roads, honestly can't see the point? Not saying it's bad or disowning it but personally can't see the point? Apart form to embarrass chavs.

BUUUUUUUUUT

This is why I want a fast Golf, everyone goes Jap, would be nice to suprise people.

[Mikester]

EP3 Type R              6.4secs 197BHP 31MPG
Clio 172 Cup            6.7secs 172BHP 34MPG
Mk5 GTI (manual)     7secs 197BHP 35MPG
Mk5 GTI (DSG)         6.7secs 197BHP 35MPG
Audi S3                   6.4secs 221BHP 30MPG

These are the cars i looked at when changing, all around the 2004 year and 8kish price range. Obviously remaps, superchargers and internet turbo conversions change these figures.

I couldnt be bothered to go on with fords etc but for reasonable priced hot hatchs you strugle to get something quicker than the type r i think. Unless you start trading age and reliability that is!!

[AlanD]

You say quicker than a Type R but when are you ever going 0-60? Its all about real world in gear speeds and unless you are in the right gear of a Type R (in the V-TECH range) it really isnt that quick. To make rapid progress you need to thrash the nuts off it, not a fan.

[Khare]

You say quicker than a Type R but when are you ever going 0-60? Its all about real world in gear speeds and unless you are in the right gear of a Type R (in the V-TECH range) it really isnt that quick. To make rapid progress you need to thrash the nuts off it, not a fan.

Agreed. From looking at those figures and in the real world I'd have gone for the S3.

[tdi_blu]

The Type R that I drove didnt need to be driven say like a 16v golf to get it to go the car was very responsive and once that v-tec kicked in all hell broke lose  but given the choice I would go S3 deffo

[Mikester]

Indeed, and i was wanting the S3 but the problem with the S3 was that you get the shape that started on an S plate and looks really old. To everyone else its just an old banger audi. If i could afford the new S3, probably in that bright blue, then hell yes.

As for when are you going to 0-60? Come on....

[Mikester]

Plus with the S3 you have a lot more to go wrong, Eg Turbo's and 4wd systems, more tyre use etc etc.

[Khare]

Indeed, and i was wanting the S3 but the problem with the S3 was that you get the shape that started on an S plate and looks really old. To everyone else its just an old banger audi. If i could afford the new S3, probably in that bright blue, then hell yes.

As for when are you going to 0-60? Come on....

Completely with you Mikey!

[Jack3559]

I've driven a 2.2 prelude vti... The vtec sounded cool and made you feel like it was going fast but it was left for dust by my old legacy gt.

Cornered like it was on rails though.

I'd probably have to be hard pushed to buy anything non-German again though, jap/français interiors just feel so cheap and rattley.