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Offline Ages84

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EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« on: 02 February 2011, 10:43 »
hi guys,

just been looking at my front brakes and want to upgrade them!
i have 280mm disks on the fron and want to upgrade to EBC brakes.

they do turbo grooved and drilled discs and ultimax discs both for the same price but what is the difference?

anyone know?

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #1 on: 02 February 2011, 11:18 »
stick with plain vented for best performance, ie no drilled or grooved designs

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #2 on: 02 February 2011, 11:20 »
Drilled discs tend to crack, better to stick with plain standard discs.

Offline Ages84

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #3 on: 02 February 2011, 11:22 »
im surprised!

i would have expected you to reply with the grooved discs as being the best, but do plain discs really brake better than the grooved discs??

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #4 on: 02 February 2011, 11:33 »
Upgrading the pad material is the most cost effective way, especially as you're only replacing what you currently have

Plain discs are fine for road use.  If you were tracking it, then going for a big brake kit would be the better way to go

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #5 on: 02 February 2011, 12:32 »
grooved discs constantly scrape the surface of your pad, this is to stop glazing which isn't really a problem on the road, only the track.

Drilled allow the disc to cool down quicker but again you won't see any benefit on the road really. Also like Wayne says they tend to crack easily


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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #6 on: 02 February 2011, 13:17 »
I had black diamond disks on an old bora with 280mm discs. Wish i had never bothered after about 5000 miles of use had to get them machined as they were that badly warped! :angry:. They were drilled and grooved so supposedly they should never have got that hot to warp, never even drove it that hard.The green stuff pads weren't much better either, never could stop them squeaking.
Plain disks and good quality pad like mintex and upgrade to steel hoses and you will be sorted.

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #7 on: 02 February 2011, 13:46 »
grooved discs constantly scrape the surface of your pad, this is to stop glazing which isn't really a problem on the road, only the track.

Drilled allow the disc to cool down quicker but again you won't see any benefit on the road really. Also like Wayne says they tend to crack easily

do pads glaze? drilled discs dont cool down any quicker than solid discs, there purely for weight saving, its even mentioned in one of the guides on here. they did have a benefit of expelling brake dust but if you get a good pad compund then this isnt a worry

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #8 on: 02 February 2011, 21:16 »
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87778.0

Drilled Discs:
 
A common misconception is that the purpose of drilled discs is to promote cooling. This couldn't be further from the truth, The real purpose is to reduce weight.

Drilling can allow brake dust and gases to escape, but with modern brake pads, this usually isn't a problem. Choosing a drilled disc for that purpose doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Many high performance cars like Porsche and Mercedes AMG come with drilled discs from the factory. For these cars, the drilling is mainly about the looks, just like bright red calipers. When people do serious high-performance driving on a trackdays, they usually swap to regular plain discs.

Drilled discs generally wear out brake pads faster and produce much more brake dust as a result.

Drilled discs have a shorter service-life than plain discs and tend to develop stress fissures/cracks over their lifetime

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Re: EBC Brakes - same price! whats the difference??
« Reply #9 on: 02 February 2011, 21:42 »
i dont rate the green stuff pads at all not worth the money and iv got drilled and grooved discs to go on mine but goin to hold off till the ones on there need changing prob gonna put a mintex pad on with mine as cant bare the idea of them whining all the time with the green stuff   :angry: :grin:


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