Bunch of questions, 1.3 conversion, etc etc.....

[twistedblack69]

Hello

Right, ive just picked up a very nice 91 1.3 ryder, on coilovers to sit next to my 85 GTI.

It WILL be having an engine conversion sometime very soon, but I need to know what to get/ best options.

I've already got a mk3 2.0 bottom end lined up, and love the way my k-jet 8v drives, but I really dont want to but another one just to rip the loom out, etc etc.

Soo ive already got a elec fuel pump and regulator fitted to the car, which brought me onto the thought about bike carbs (yes i have read the other post) but boss bogg (or whatever theyre called) dont make a manifold for the 8v.

Can i fit a crossflow 8v to a mk3 bottom end, and which head would this be ?
Does the 2.0 bottom end bolt to my subframe ?

If i where to mate the 2.0 bottom end to a mk2 gti gearbox (02A?) then would my standaard gear rod arrangments work? and would the driveshafts fit up ??

Anybody any experience with 1.3 conversions (and yes I have searched)

Thankie !

I'm pretty sure the crossflow head you'll want is off a mk4 1.4 engine. I've read about people putting this head on the 2.0 8v bottom end from a mk3 , but having to plug a few holes up (I'm no expert on the subject, just trying to remember what I've read).

At the end of the day, like said above, ABF would be easier and more output, but both conversions have been done before, and it's you're choice whether you prefer 8v or 16v.

[Simeon]

right ok.. so dont need a lot then off the mk3 really..

whats the advantages of converting to hydraulic clutch ?? and cable change ??

can i remove the front brakes / hubs off the mk3 and fit them with the mk3 box ??

02A 'box off the mk3 is stronger, but 020 'boxes will take 200bhp ok so no probs with a na abf. I'd just stick with your 8v 'box, will be fine.

Re the brakes etc, do a search for 'mk2 widetrack' and see what's involved.

[tech1889]

lovely thanks mate.. think i will stay with the box i have in there.. so literally all i gota do is bolt the lump into position and plug it all in and bobs your uncle ??

I believe the immob has been disarmed from the mk3 as my mate had problems with it.. will this cause issues ??

[Simeon]

Well, when you say it fast it sounds easy I'd remove the complete lump and 'box from your mk2, swap the flywheel and clutch onto the abf, refit the 'box then put it back complete. You've got to remove the mastercylinder/servo too to get the wiring out and fit the mk3 wiring. Also got to run a wire to the mk3 coil to run the rev counter, or wire in the tci unit and mk2 coil instead. Then if you want to fit the ecu in the standard mk2 location you've got to extend the loom to the ecu - 32 wires = 64 solder joints (not fun btw), but does mean you can fit the mk2 raintray rubber sleeve.

Also think about the induction side, need an airbox from Seat ibiza/toledo if you want it to look standard, or get and induction cone.

[Simeon]

Oh, and if the immob has been removed from the ecu then that makes it more simple, but I'd keep all the wiring/transponder/key etc just in case. Might also be worth wiring in the vagcom plug so you can do diagnostics if required in the future

[wurth]

sorry guys i have a mk3 2.0 16v here is there a list that says exactly what i need from the car for the conversion as i dont want to forget nothing.. as i just wanna get conversion stuff out and then break the car.

Or i could have the car and could save you hassle of misses ?

In essex also  !!

[wurth]

Hello

Right, ive just picked up a very nice 91 1.3 ryder, on coilovers to sit next to my 85 GTI.

It WILL be having an engine conversion sometime very soon, but I need to know what to get/ best options.

I've already got a mk3 2.0 bottom end lined up, and love the way my k-jet 8v drives, but I really dont want to but another one just to rip the loom out, etc etc.

Soo ive already got a elec fuel pump and regulator fitted to the car, which brought me onto the thought about bike carbs (yes i have read the other post) but boss bogg (or whatever theyre called) dont make a manifold for the 8v.

Can i fit a crossflow 8v to a mk3 bottom end, and which head would this be ?
Does the 2.0 bottom end bolt to my subframe ?

If i where to mate the 2.0 bottom end to a mk2 gti gearbox (02A?) then would my standaard gear rod arrangments work? and would the driveshafts fit up ??

Anybody any experience with 1.3 conversions (and yes I have searched)

Thankie !

I'm pretty sure the crossflow head you'll want is off a mk4 1.4 engine. I've read about people putting this head on the 2.0 8v bottom end from a mk3 , but having to plug a few holes up (I'm no expert on the subject, just trying to remember what I've read).

At the end of the day, like said above, ABF would be easier and more output, but both conversions have been done before, and it's you're choice whether you prefer 8v or 16v.

Thank you.

Think i may stick with looking for a wrecked mk3/2 gti, then i can rip all the bits off i need.

so i can litterally plug and play all the bits from a mk3 golf gti, just change to an mk2 020 box, and rod assembly, and thats it ??

[tech1889]

No can do Wurth the cars worth more to be being broken for parts.. Cheers for info guys sorry for hijack of thread..