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Offline Snoopy

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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #10 on: 21 December 2010, 21:37 »
At some point people have to accept the pro's views.  Again i'm not looking for an argument just repeating...
What classes them as pros, what is there background, education etc....
WWW.VOLKSWAGENDRIVERMAG.CO.UK i have correct more than once on technical issues. They are Journos, they are qualified as writers, nothing more.
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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #11 on: 21 December 2010, 22:40 »
sounds like dyno's telling porkies!

i have had mine on Dyno Dynamics (which are know to be the best when set up correctly) and mine came in at 207bhp with remap removed. came in at bang on 265 with revo.

there is not a std gti out there with 250bhp :wink: :nerd:

"Interestingly, in all the dyno testing that Superchips has carried out on the standard Mk 6 GTI, they’ve found the actual figures to be substantially higher than the factory claims. This particular car clocked no less than 249 bhp at 6651 rpm and 307 Nm at 5167 rpm. For a car which is rated at 210 PS (207 bhp) and 280 Nm, according to the official factory figures, that’s already pretty healthy." Quote WWW.VOLKSWAGENDRIVERMAG.CO.UK

"the Golf, over 10 per cent up on where it should be (229bhp rather than 207), is almost halfway to having the power promised for the forthcoming R version." Quote Evo Magazine...


Dont be too quick to dimiss the question......

Hey that's the GTI I owned briefly, brings a tear to my eye:-) no way it felt like it had 250bhp but it did do more to the gallon than the one that's replaced it by about 5% I reckon. Must of had it's lumps well and truly worn off during the running in period by superchips.

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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #12 on: 21 December 2010, 22:41 »
At some point people have to accept the pro's views.  Again i'm not looking for an argument just repeating...
What classes them as pros, what is there background, education etc....
WWW.VOLKSWAGENDRIVERMAG.CO.UK i have correct more than once on technical issues. They are Journos, they are qualified as writers, nothing more.

LMAO - Q"What classes them as pros"
           A. They get paid for it!!

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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #13 on: 21 December 2010, 23:27 »
Ok I'd like to join in on this discussion.

The first point is the 'pro' question of journalists. Journalists are pros however they are pros at writing magazines and perhaps not at serious and reliable vehicle performance documentation. At the end of the day the magazine only wants to sell as many copies as possible. Creating a reputation for reliability and accuracy is certainly a way to encourage readers to keep buying but so is a good juicy read. Stating that a car as well known as the GTI is developing a good bit more power is a good way to get in more readers.

Secondly,
Hi all, I've read a few reviews from mags and online mags that have tested standard BHP of stock MK6 GTI's and they have all reported higher than the 210 BHP specified by VW. One tested on their Dyno 249BHP!

I'd be interested in the results on this forum of those who have stuck their cars on the dyno.


Cheers,

Jim


I'm not trying to get into an argument here but two well established motoring magazines have performed tests and their comments are in my post for all to see.

At some point people have to accept the pro's views.  You could use your own argument to suggest that figures used for your BHP test could be wrong........

Again i'm not looking for an argument just repeating what I have seen in some well respected motoring mags.....

It does sound like you have your own mind made up about whether or not you want to believe the magazines.

That is all for now  :smiley:

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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #14 on: 26 December 2010, 17:10 »
At some point people have to accept the pro's views.  Again i'm not looking for an argument just repeating...
What classes them as pros, what is there background, education etc....
WWW.VOLKSWAGENDRIVERMAG.CO.UK i have correct more than once on technical issues. They are Journos, they are qualified as writers, nothing more.

With your exacting standards i would have expected better  :wink: :grin:
Golfgti build quality is average at best.

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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #15 on: 26 December 2010, 17:20 »
bhp willy waving of the highest order again.  just like the Mk5 owners were

i remember a certain RR day at JKM - made some VERY interesting Teddy throwing when



so much so  . . . .



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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #16 on: 26 December 2010, 17:25 »
You try telling a man with a Stage 1 re-map he hasn't got 275BHP.
There will be blood...  :smug:

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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #17 on: 26 December 2010, 17:34 »
At some point people have to accept the pro's views.  Again i'm not looking for an argument just repeating...
What classes them as pros, what is there background, education etc....
WWW.VOLKSWAGENDRIVERMAG.CO.UK i have correct more than once on technical issues. They are Journos, they are qualified as writers, nothing more.

With your exacting standards i would have expected better  :wink: :grin:
I never said I could write. I am dyslexic, so putting things down in words is a problem for me, always has been, always will be. Its why you may often see my posts edited as if i go back to them a few hours later i can spot things i could not see earlier. You may find quite a few people who are dyslexic are extremely good at mathematics and engineering disciplines though.
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« Last Edit: 26 December 2010, 17:43 by Snoopy »
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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #18 on: 26 December 2010, 17:55 »
Just playing,my english is pretty rubbish :wink:
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Re: Standard BHP
« Reply #19 on: 26 December 2010, 18:03 »
Anyone up for a rolling road day on the dyno dynamics rollers at my place to prove this once and for all?

All in the name of fun of course and all types invited :smiley:

I'll do it for free but a donation to help for heroes would be a nice idea at say between 10-20 quid per car?

Thoughts?
« Last Edit: 26 December 2010, 18:20 by The Doc »