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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #50 on: 17 December 2010, 16:57 »
It's funny how they seem to be saying the exact opposite of what's being said on here.

No surprise there...many cars are trailered about and those that are driven are often nursed about because they are so low, and have such good paint.

If the car is never driven hard, then they are unlikely to cause problems.
Although, in the case of an accident, i'd like to see what the Assessor/Engineer has to say about them.


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As said, concept is sound... application seems flimsy.

Maybe a super braced and welded drop plate would do the trick.

I agree.
Principle is sound...and fully braced, there is no strength issue.
But then shorter dampers do the same job, surely, and without the engineering work?


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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #51 on: 17 December 2010, 17:12 »

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As said, concept is sound... application seems flimsy.

Maybe a super braced and welded drop plate would do the trick.

I agree.
Principle is sound...and fully braced, there is no strength issue.
But then shorter dampers do the same job, surely, and without the engineering work?



I'm not trying to put forward that i know anything about these but isn't the main reason they use them on edition to put their rear axle more central when low, so dampers wouldn't have the same effect? i know i had a problem with the wheel sitting too far forward on the estate but that didn't really bother me, sorry if i've missed something here :D

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #52 on: 17 December 2010, 17:31 »
You're thinking of Mason tech great plates, they relocate the wheel backwards and forwards whereas these relocate them up into the arch.

The reason I'm looking into these is because I thought they'd be good for keeping the suspension as soft as it is at the moment.

I'm on lowering shocks and springs and I need to go a bit lower without changing my setup.

Estates on coilies that run super low are bouncy as f**k.

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #53 on: 17 December 2010, 18:01 »
You're thinking of Mason tech great plates, they relocate the wheel backwards and forwards whereas these relocate them up into the arch.

The reason I'm looking into these is because I thought they'd be good for keeping the suspension as soft as it is at the moment.

I'm on lowering shocks and springs and I need to go a bit lower without changing my setup.

Estates on coilies that run super low are bouncy as f**k.

Ahh i see, but in theory the same thing? just putting them further in the arch means their longer and not offset? yeah i see what you mean, going by the amount of people that use them over on vortex if made correctly i would use them. Don't know why you wouldn't rather go for coilovers though?

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #54 on: 17 December 2010, 18:05 »
I like my setup for reliability, comfort and lack of bounce!

I had coilies on my last estate and I much prefer the way the new one handles.

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #55 on: 17 December 2010, 21:29 »
You're thinking of Mason tech great plates, they relocate the wheel backwards and forwards whereas these relocate them up into the arch.

The reason I'm looking into these is because I thought they'd be good for keeping the suspension as soft as it is at the moment.


Mason plates are a whole different ball game, drop plates are still a daft idea and asking for trouble.

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #56 on: 18 December 2010, 07:31 »
The Mason Tech plates do a different job, as has been said...and again, are a sound idea.

However, once again, you are transferring the load from the rear beam into a 10mm plate and some very short bolts.
Yes, it lengthens the wheelbase back to where it should be on a standard height car, so takes the wheels away from the point where the tyres usually catch the arches...but to me, it's adding a failure point.
I'd not use them either....although, they are less likely to cause 'issues' than drop plates in my mind.

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #57 on: 18 December 2010, 13:05 »
Ive gotta say those Mason Tech sumpsaver skid plates look pretty damn good though.


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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #58 on: 27 January 2011, 23:06 »
Isn't it just like a crowbar levering on the beam under some heavy cornering?

Would not like to be going round a hard bend fast then hitting a pothole with them on the back. Surely the flex alone would make the car handle worse, let alone if it sheared off.

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Re: Ever heard of drop plates?
« Reply #59 on: 19 September 2013, 16:41 »
After finding a 3yr old copy of PVW, i started to research these drop plates, stumbled across this amazing thread, and the 4page link that's also in here, and i thought i would comment, and maybe anyone else considering this might benefit from this very interesting and envolving topic
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