Why the negativity for MK3 Golfs - enlighten me :)

[VR6_Wherry]

16v for track days, not the VR. Too heavy and too much weight towards the front.

+1

The VR6 down the strip on the other hand would be a good choice 

That's what my intentions with mine are for

[tigerj360]

its like premiership football, mk3's are Chelsea and mk2's the Fulham.

They call it a derby but in reality Fulham hate Chelsea and Chelsea just feel sorry for Fulham.

same works with the golfs 

*gets some popcorn*

Comments from you in the 1.6 are as about as useful as 3D glasses for Ruprecht.

Shhhhh.

 

hey leave my poor 1.6 out of this! im to young for a GTI 

[Wayne]

So what we are saying then is that the MK3 GTI was a bit of a disapointment, not as focussed as the previous Golfs but has potential.

Like i said my intentions were based on buying a decent example of a MK3 VR6

1. I like the shape of the MK3
2. You can get a decent MK3 VR6 for 2-2.5k
3. It sounds awesome and can produce a decent amount of bhp with minor fettling
4. Should respond well to some decent suspension, polybushing, brakes and be a fun toy i can use for trackdays.

If you want something for a trackday then get a mk2 much better bet than a mk3, as already posted the VR is to heavy on the front end.

[xkaty_h]

The germans answer was the  mighty 16v  what a improvment that was not really even the 8v will still do it off the lights

Surely a 8v will do a 16v off the lights as the 8v has more lower down torque and the 16v is higher? I may be entirely wrong but I thought that was the main difference between the two.
I really don't like the styling of the mk3 and it cant be ignored that it does resemble a house boat in both size, weight and generalness, buuut that's just a personal opinion.

[jeremybarker]

I've already got a MK2 but it's too nice to track and i really want to keep it OE, plus the reason for the VR6 was the noise, I'm past the point of wanting to go as fast as I can, the VR6 would give me enough fun factor plus if I want to be scared stupid I strap myself into the passenger seat of my mate Ben Winrow, then I realise what quick is. He last took me round Goodwood in a Caterham roadsport, the boy has no idea what brakes are for  

[Agreeable Slick]

The germans answer was the  mighty 16v  what a improvment that was not really even the 8v will still do it off the lights

Surely a 8v will do a 16v off the lights as the 8v has more lower down torque and the 16v is higher? I may be entirely wrong but I thought that was the main difference between the two.

You are entirely wrong.

The 8v and 16v torque curves overlay almost exactly.

[xkaty_h]

The germans answer was the  mighty 16v  what a improvment that was not really even the 8v will still do it off the lights

Surely a 8v will do a 16v off the lights as the 8v has more lower down torque and the 16v is higher? I may be entirely wrong but I thought that was the main difference between the two.

You are entirely wrong.

The 8v and 16v torque curves overlay almost exactly.

Ah pah.
Least I tried! 

[Agreeable Slick]

Don't worry, it's a common arguement that is used whenever 8v 16v topics come up.

16v just develops more power higher up, hence you have to run it above 4k to get the most out of it. 8v gives you all round drivability without having bleeding ears at the end of the drive.

[Svelte Fog]

New member post.......

I have at the moment a mk3 2.0 gti, no it's not quick by any stretch of the imagination but it is a Golf and it is better than an equivalent Escort or an Astra etc etc.
I have had a mk2 and i loved it untill some to**er stole it, i spent the following summer months looking around the car parks at every VW show i could get to just looking for my car, i never did find it.

[Wayne]

Don't worry, it's a common arguement that is used whenever 8v 16v topics come up.

16v just develops more power higher up, hence you have to run it above 4k to get the most out of it. 8v gives you all round drivability without having bleeding ears at the end of the drive.

Quick question. which do you prefer  8 or 16v