2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s

[string69]

Before there were ECU's controlling inition, timing, boost if turbo, there were carbs right???!!  Take a old austin mini 1275cc. take to tuners.... bigger bore/ 1293/1340/1380/ single 40 carb or twins.... surely that would be still worse on emmisions and no where as efficient as a injection car thats ecu controlled/modded via the obd port!? I guess if this goes ahead then as mentioned before. Go to tuner before mot. back to standard..... mot and back up to the modded map!!   

[GolfTi]

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[Peej1981]

Only just read through this and as someone who is in the motor industry i am intrested to see what will be going to change. I over heard as well that they are clamping down on exhausts too? someone told me that they will fail a car on its mot if the exhaust is louder then the standard one , think this was wrong though as there will be a lot of people failing mot's. Also what about the people out there who have there cars mapped to run under the standard performance to try and save fuel and boost their mpg, what will happen to these guys, surely if this is the way forward they will be failing mot's.
By the sound of it the guys doing remaps will either be making loads from taking maps off and putting them back on or this will put people off from having a remap in the first place meaning the remappers will be losing money?

Will be watching this space.

[torquetastic]

Do people remap there cars to have less poke for extra MPG?

I have been educated by this forum that the extra poke means the car has to work less hard which in turn gives better MPG, is this not right?

I don;t see why a remap should fail an MOT just as long as the insurance company is aware that you got more poke which in turn could make you a possibly higher risk driver with the temptation to use the extra poke you never had before the map.

MOT's are gonna get strange, alot of fannying about before going for your test then wack it all back on that is all that will happen, like the HIDS, it won't stop the numpties that have HIDS without having a projection ball to focus the light.

[RTechUK]

Do people remap there cars to have less poke for extra MPG?

I have been educated by this forum that the extra poke means the car has to work less hard which in turn gives better MPG, is this not right?

I don;t see why a remap should fail an MOT just as long as the insurance company is aware that you got more poke which in turn could make you a possibly higher risk driver with the temptation to use the extra poke you never had before the map.

MOT's are gonna get strange, alot of fannying about before going for your test then wack it all back on that is all that will happen, like the HIDS, it won't stop the numpties that have HIDS without having a projection ball to focus the light.

some remap out there are very poor, some compromise emission control for performace under cruise or part throttle conditions, there only should be fuel changes when under load, there should be a body to govern remap and what calibrations should be kept the same,

You can also look at it this way, a stock AUQ 180bhp remap with flash direct to an AUM 150bph ecu, you could class this as a remap? but  the AUQ mapping has far better emission controls.   

There is NO way an MOT tester could see if an ecu is mapped, the only way to find out is to have a copy of every stock factory map checksum, then read the ecu and compare the checksumms.  The easy way around this is change ecu login codes, inplant no read tags, and/or run remove the ecus runtime checksumm and leave the stock checksum in place.

[andybod]

Do people remap there cars to have less poke for extra MPG?

I have been educated by this forum that the extra poke means the car has to work less hard which in turn gives better MPG, is this not right?

I don;t see why a remap should fail an MOT just as long as the insurance company is aware that you got more poke which in turn could make you a possibly higher risk driver with the temptation to use the extra poke you never had before the map.

MOT's are gonna get strange, alot of fannying about before going for your test then wack it all back on that is all that will happen, like the HIDS, it won't stop the numpties that have HIDS without having a projection ball to focus the light.

sounds like you got that one covered then 
some remap out there are very poor, some compromise emission control for performace under cruise or part throttle conditions, there only should be fuel changes when under load, there should be a body to govern remap and what calibrations should be kept the same,

You can also look at it this way, a stock AUQ 180bhp remap with flash direct to an AUM 150bph ecu, you could class this as a remap? but  the AUQ mapping has far better emission controls.   

There is NO way an MOT tester could see if an ecu is mapped, the only way to find out is to have a copy of every stock factory map checksum, then read the ecu and compare the checksumms.  The easy way around this is change ecu login codes, inplant no read tags, and/or run remove the ecus runtime checksumm and leave the stock checksum in place.

[thatwillis]

Would it be possible to put a switch in somewhere hidden that restricts assess to the ecu. So it can't be checked or throws up a false map.

I suppose there is always "looseing" the plug inside the dash 

[topher]

Would it be possible to put a switch in somewhere hidden that restricts assess to the ecu. So it can't be checked or throws up a false map.

I suppose there is always "looseing" the plug inside the dash 

yes and it's very simple to do, however i believe the intention is that if the ecu can't be accessed they will assume it's locked out and you'll fail the mot.

[Ben Lessani]

Can hardly see this being enforced ... it is impractical - just another idea that the tofs at the top devised over a round of fox hunting.

[RTechUK]

Would it be possible to put a switch in somewhere hidden that restricts assess to the ecu. So it can't be checked or throws up a false map.

I suppose there is always "looseing" the plug inside the dash 

yes and it's very simple to do, however i believe the intention is that if the ecu can't be accessed they will assume it's locked out and you'll fail the mot.

So all tricore ecus will fail the MOT in 3 years time?