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2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« on: 08 November 2010, 09:03 »
What will this mean for ramapped cars?

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #1 on: 08 November 2010, 09:34 »
What will this mean for ramapped cars?

What are the proposed changes?  :huh:

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #2 on: 08 November 2010, 11:27 »
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From VOSA''

The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change – the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.
Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.

The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?

In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.

We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.
As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.

In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.
Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.

Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations.

Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.

The common EU test certificate should be relatively easy to achieve – the only data that the Directive expects and that we don’t currently provide is the symbol for the vehicle’s country of origin. Probably 99% of vehicles tested will have
‘UK’ entered here, but if you do test vehicles with a foreign plate, you will need to enter the correct country symbol. We may even be able to make this change earlier if there is a convenient opportunity.

The MOT trade can rest assured that VOSA is working closely with you to introduce any new elements as efficiently and effectively as possible, with the minimum of fuss. Just as importantly, we are also working closely with Siemens to ensure that any system changes due on New Year’s Eve 2011 go smoothly! We should know more by the time the MOT seminars take place – come along and ask the experts.

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #3 on: 08 November 2010, 11:34 »
Not sure on the chipping issue but at least this will hopefully kill off all the dim wits adding HID's to car's which aren't designed to run them.

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #4 on: 08 November 2010, 11:39 »
What is classed as "illegal engine chipping" though?

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #5 on: 08 November 2010, 11:41 »
What is classed as "illegal engine chipping" though?

I suspect anything that changes the map on the standard ECU as this is deviating from what passed type approval.

That's a guess though so we'll have to wait and see what falls out of the consultation process with VOSA nd the MOT testers groups.

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #6 on: 08 November 2010, 11:48 »
what new equipment are they proposing to use to detect a re-map, surely the main problem they could detect of a bad re-map would be emissions a good re-map would probably reduce emissions, they are thinking of having mots done on a 2 yearly basis this is stupid as repmobiles can rack up huge mileages in 2 years with the state of our roads imagine the wear and tear on suspension items in 2 years

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #7 on: 08 November 2010, 11:49 »
Looks like bluefin and such systems are going to make a killing off this news, as everyone will need an instantly switchable map. :undecided:

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #8 on: 08 November 2010, 11:53 »
Looks like bluefin and such systems are going to make a killing off this news, as everyone will need an instantly switchable map. :undecided:

Could be that everyone will need to go this route as a supplier.

Not sure where peeps like me stand who have standalone or piggy back management. Although I expect cars pre 2001 will be exempt.

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Re: 2012 MOT Changes - Chipped ECU’s
« Reply #9 on: 08 November 2010, 14:17 »
Strange how they use the term chipping?

The yanks have had this for a few years now, they check all the rediness setting in the ecu via the obd port.