How do you drive a DSG?

[stokeballoon]

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dsg+problems

I hope that VW finally see sense and give DSG owners a 10 Year warranty as in the US.  I hope none of you have any problems, but you must admit that the DSG box is not fully reliable.  Too many problems for VAG to ignore you would hope, but I fear they will still deny problems.

I like a manual, you like a auto (Sorry!) DSG.  Would be boring if we all liked the same in our cars.

End of my trip, boat heading back to the harbour!

 

[DDRFan]

hi guise (and gals)
not been on for a while, but nice to see the ole "DSG is better than manuel sukkoz!!!!1111"  arguments are still as healthy as ever.
reading through the posts, it mostly seems to be one extreme of opinion to another, but i like both and can see the benefits of having DSG over manual. some of you may remember i have a manual and i'm quite happy with it. Actually to some extent I don't really know what I'm missing because i only tried DSG a couple years ago on a test drive, but i was nonetheless impressed. however i personally just don't see £1300 as an amount of money worth spending on this extra.

Whilst i still have a left leg that works i would prefer just driving the way i've known for 10 years, 3 pedals and a stick in the middle i have to poke about every so often - and the GTI manuals are really nice to use, the clutch pedal isn't super heavy as opposed to performance-esque cars of years gone by, moving the stick it slots nicely into place and doesn't require training in the gym twice a week to operate. yes i suppose pressing a couple of paddles behind the wheel is easier. and you get off the line quicker and you can beat boi racers more easily in a DSG. and it's more fuel efficient - blah blah blah. But i just don't see the DSG will add to my own driving experience. for me the GTI is already a great car in manual format, and i'm happy with it. I still think DSG is an impressive innovation though, and it's nice we're given the choice in options - obviously for some drivers DSG enhances the GTI experience greatly, and it's nice that drivers can enjoy this.

and as for the question whether DSG is really a 'manual with 2 clutches' - well, if you were taking a practical driving test in a DSG, would you qualify with a manual license?? Any driving examiners in the house? i don't know anybody who has taken a test in a DSG before, however i would guess that although the underlying technical mechanics could be argued to be 'manual', the way you operate DSG is still automatic in style, and the DVLA would award an automatic license to reflect as such. and correct me if i'm wrong but nobody will be doing Russ Swift style J-turns in a DSG; that's only possible with the fine control you get from a manually operated clutch plate.

[Ess_Three]

however i personally just don't see £1300 as an amount of money worth spending on this extra.

Put a 6 speed sequential in there, and that's a gearbox I'd never complain about not having to use the clutch (except off the line!) and I'd happily pay twice DSGs cost for it...

I can dream...

[mike.]

 

I hope that VW finally see sense and give DSG owners a 10 Year warranty as in the US. 

This was due to the  DSG recall, due to a faulty temperature sensor, which involved 53300 cars only in the US.
It didn't apply to the UK.

There is probably as much chance of a turbo failure or some other catastrophic internal engine failure as any failure of the DSG

[mfl]

well, if you were taking a practical driving test in a DSG, would you qualify with a manual license??

we have a similar system in New South Wales (Oz), when a learner drivers sits for their provisional license. you sit for a manual or auto license (when you qualify for a full license, the manual or auto license no longer exists, you can drive either). A manual license means you need  to sit for the exam in a car with a clutch pedal.

[stokeballoon]

I hope that VW finally see sense and give DSG owners a 10 Year warranty as in the US. 

This was due to the  DSG recall, due to a faulty temperature sensor, which involved 53300 cars only in the US.
It didn't apply to the UK.

There is probably as much chance of a turbo failure or some other catastrophic internal engine failure as any failure of the DSG

in the words of Journey

Just a small town girl................Living in a lonely world.............

[mike.]

I thought your boat had sailed into the sunset 

[stokeballoon]

 

[gitsy]

Nothing to do with speed or aggression or the utter laziness of most drivers.

Off on a tangent I know...

But modern cars:
Park themselves, because people have lost the ability to know where the extremities of their vehicle are, and as such cannot park it.
They have a camera to see hehind, because drivers are too lazy to turn round.
They have automatic lights because drivers are too thick to realise the light level has dropped and they can't see/bee seen.
They have automatic wipers to save the terminally lays from having to extend a finger and manually activate the wipers.
They have automatic gearboxes to save people from changing gear themselves.
They have cruise control to save people from actually having to use the other of their legs that DSG doesn't relegate to 'not required'.
They have ABS/ESP/TCS etc, which whilst being perfectly valid safety systems, they allow the stupid and the lazy to let the car sort out poorly judged applications of brakes, throttle and cornering ablilty.
They have tyre pressure warning systems that whils warn you of a ligitimate de-pressurising tyre, also allow the lazy to never check their tyre pressures,...and hence never bother checking the condition of their tyres.

Which allows the driver to make swift, relatively safe and speedy progress whilst completely insulated from all road conditions, oblivious to those round about them...and frees up their limiterd attention span to let them play with their touch screen in car media systems.

In my opinion it all began when they started putting windscreen washers on cars because people were too lazy to get out and clean them themselves.

I hate technological advancements.

<winky face thing>

[Ess_Three]

In my opinion it all began when they started putting windscreen washers on cars because people were too lazy to get out and clean them themselves.

I hate technological advancements.

<winky face thing>

I'm with you genius...who needs dampers or pneumatic tyres?

Technology is great...but technology that turns the drivers of increasingly heavier weapons, into unaware idiots is not so fine.