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Offline jmsheahan

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Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« on: 31 October 2010, 14:19 »
Hi All,

My name is Jon and I'm a regular user of Golfgti.co.uk. I'm a 3rd year graphic design student with a passion for all things Volkswagen, and am currently writing my dissertation.

The topic looks into the personal identity represented through the car and its ownership. I'm hoping this thread will develop into a friendly, informal discussion in which all involved with Golfgti.co.uk can share their experiences and enthusiasm for their cars, thus giving a small insight into where your interests lie in regards to modifying your Volkswagen.

I shall be using the thread as a way of establishing an overview of interest with the possibility of quoting individuals providing you are happy for me to do so. If you feel you would like to offer to this discussion I would appreciate your input by answering a few short questions listed below. I have chosen a question format for the simplicity of organising information, but please feel free to add or discuss anything else related to the topic you may think of interest.

I also attach a poster demonstrating my intentions further and if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Hopefully this will make for good thread potential so please chat away folks. Any input is greatly appreciated  :smiley:



High res available here http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/jmsheahan_44/Disposter_bug2-1.jpg



Questions:

What is the model of your Volkswagen?

Why did you purchase this particular model?

What modifications have you carried out to your car?

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.
« Last Edit: 31 October 2010, 21:33 by jmsheahan »

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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #1 on: 31 October 2010, 14:46 »
What is the model of your Volkswagen?

Mk4 Golf GTI 1.8 20v

Why did you purchase this particular model?

because it looks good, and better than my old car, an alfa romeo

What modifications have you carried out to your car?

so far, just decat, badgeless grille, debadged tailgate, more to follow in 2011 with more money

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?

18" mercedes alloys, r32 kit

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?

any car is a canvas in which the owner can express their vision for that car or an insight into their personality

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?

i understand all this 'dub', but it isnt me, i hate the modified dub scene (not classic dub scene), but i like my golf, dub is simply an extention of 'euro' imo

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?

yes, ive seen a few mk4 golfs this yr at shows were ive thought, that simply looks nice but effective

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?

the understanding with other people when your car breaks, or even aspects of loving the car, sharing an interest, knowing that you can ask a question, and people will have the answer straight away

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.

to some, it may, but not to me, its the family car, just a car that i like, i used to hate golfs, but now im know i made the right choice in buying a new car
« Last Edit: 31 October 2010, 14:49 by Tazzy »
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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #2 on: 31 October 2010, 14:48 »
I'll kick this one off then  :smiley:

What is the model of your Volkswagen?
1991 MK2 Golf GTI 8v 5dr

Why did you purchase this particular model?
Always wanted a MK2 big bumper and after having to sell my TVR thought it would be a cool "cheap" fun car to own

What modifications have you carried out to your car?
Currently focussing on keeping it OEM externally and simply restoring what needs doing. I have got a new set of springs and shocks to lower the car 60/40mm as i think it suits the car better and my shocks are well past it anyway.

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?
In time whilst keeping a standard look outside i'd look to change the engine for a G60 or VR6

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?
Neither really, i see my car as a source of relaxation when not dealing with two under 5 year olds :) Adding a VR6 engine would be just as much for the sound of the engine rather than the overall performance gains. I love cars and enjoy tinkering, the MK2 is a classic Dub and one which i intend to keep and over time do more and more work, including a full nut and bolt rebuild.

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?
I don't think there's any other manufacturer that has owners like VeeDub cars, everyone is always happy to help or lend an ear or offer advice, there are no pre-judgments on who owns what, it's just like minded people enjoying a hobby and i can't think of another that has the same kind of passion.

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?
I had an Integrale Evo2 which has the same kind of shape but no not really I just like the image of the Golf GTI and the fact that they are so well built not only have they not rusted into the ground but their still immense fun to drive around in today.

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?
Being able to chat to like minded people and get some appreciation for the work i put into my car (more than the wife)

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.
I think owning any car is a lifestyle choice, that's why there are different strokes for different folks. My TVR's were great fun, i bought these as i loved the noise and speed, the Integrale was also a lovely car (i've had 12 or so Lancia's since i was fifteen), I partly bought the Golf becasue of the non chav element to the owners scene and the fact that there are people in there teens to their 40's and 50's that enjoy owning and talking about them. in addition to keeping the Golf, my next car will be a 996 Carrera4S which will be in about two years time, why? Well again i love the sound of the Porsche flat six, and it'll be a car that i will have to keep. They offer good performance, good reliability and with two chiildren there are two seats in the back that means i'll use it more than once in a blue moon. Another two seater like a Ferrari 348 or TVR Tuscan would be an option but i wouldn't get to use it that much and that would defeat the object of buying the car in the first place.

Just to add to this, i have just spent this evening trick or treating with a chap who lives up my road as we bumped into them trick or treating their house, turns out he has a caddy, just sold a MK1 GTD so spent the whole time chatting about VeeDubs and what we've done to our cars, in addition we also trick or treated another chaps house who bought a bay window camper a week ago and then spent time chatting about his camper. That's VW for you.

HTH
Jeremy.
« Last Edit: 31 October 2010, 21:26 by jeremybarker »

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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #3 on: 31 October 2010, 14:59 »
What is the model of your Volkswagen?

1986 golf GL 5 door in jade green
Why did you purchase this particular model?

Rare colour, early model with lots of chrome and quarter light windows, it was cheap!
What modifications have you carried out to your car?
Full PB conversion with digifant fuel injection, supersport shocks and springs (-60mm), Pirelli P slot wheels, half tint rear lights, smoked front indicators and side reps, early gti arch trims
What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?
GTI rear axle with discs and ARB to fit, 16v MC to fit, other than that I would love 20vt power
Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?
both
What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?

reliability, I've had a LOT of VWs so I know them pretty well
Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?

loads of previous sh!tboxes that couldn't handle the abuse and mileage I can put upon a golf
What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?

The ability to help others out, and know theres help out there if I ever have problems
Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.
I think so, theres a big scene out there, bigger than any other "manufacturers" I think. Whenever I own anything other than a golf, even if its more comfortable or faster, I always want to be back in a mk2 golf again. I've sold so many cars just to be back in a mk2 again. In fact even though we have 3 kids I've even struggled with 3 door golfs just to own one!

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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #4 on: 31 October 2010, 15:28 »
What is the model of your Volkswagen?
Mk2 golf GTI 8v, also have a 1971 beetle, 1970 bay window camper.

Why did you purchase this particular model?
had a poster of it on my wall as a teenager

What modifications have you carried out to your car?
lowered 60mm all round, kent cam, full s/s exhaust, k&N panel filter, clear headlights, LED indicators, M5 rear lights, wheel spacers.

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?
none its just the way I want it.

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?
performance enhancement

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?
simple, reliable, cool, fast, iconic.

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?
just the launch poster of the big bumpered golf gti in helious blue, which is what I've got  :wink:

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?
advice, banter, like minded individuals.

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.
having a 20 year old hot hatch that can still hold its own against new cars and chavs is satisfying, and yeah a life style it puts the middle finger up to the Goverment, whats the saying "sell my vw I'd rather shove something somewhere" :grin:

good luck with your studies

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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #5 on: 31 October 2010, 16:54 »
What is the model of your Volkswagen?
1997 Mk3 Gti 8v

Why did you purchase this particular model?
Because it was cheap and met my needs.

What modifications have you carried out to your car?
Lowered on coilovers, BBS wheels, smoked fogs/indicators/side repeaters, joey modded headlights, pipercross panel filter, drilled airbox, sub/amp in boot, black badges, black grill, silver dials, pressed metal number plates with surrounds, think thats it!

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?
1.8T engine conversion (with upgrades  :evil:, decent cat-back system.

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?
At the moment mainly creative remodeling, eventually it will be performance enhancement.

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?
Reliablilty and the cult following that certain models have.

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?
Mk1 or Mk2 Gti

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?
Banter! advice, constructive criticism.

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.
I think that to some it can be, not to me though.
« Last Edit: 31 October 2010, 17:25 by dom069 »

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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #6 on: 31 October 2010, 18:05 »
What is the model of your Volkswagen?

Mk2 16v Golf GTI turbo

Why did you purchase this particular model?

Cos its quick as fook and I have wanted a MK2 since before I could drive

What modifications have you carried out to your car?

Borbet A's, New Spax RSX coilovers all round, Speakers in the doors, Uprated conrods and bearings, Uprated headlight loom, new headunit.

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?

Bigger turbo, MORE POWER! haha

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?

Mix of the two

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?

The community! old dubs waving to old dubs no matter weather your rocking air cooled camper or a slammed ratty mk2 golf.

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?

Astra van, didnt ever break and didnt have much in the way of power, got bored of this so bought my stupid golf.

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?

Help when the sh!t hits the fan

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.

Kind of, it definatly affects your lifestyle as you spend most of your time worrying or thinking about whats wrong with it  :grin: and weekends sorting parts and fitting them.


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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #7 on: 31 October 2010, 18:29 »
What is the model of your Volkswagen?

Mk2 8valve GTI

Why did you purchase this particular model?

Borrowed it off a mate after my mini's engine ate the gearbox, got offered it cheap so took it.

What modifications have you carried out to your car?

Re-spray

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?

Nothing really apart from more power

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?

It's a car

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?

I'm not a scene whore, it's just a decent car. The community is pretty good though.

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?

After owning the golf for a few years I would 100% own another VW, built like tanks and fun to drive.

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?

Meeting new people and sharing advice I guess.

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.

Not really, maybe if you owned a camper and actually used it for camping. Not just making it look like a rusty old shed for scene points.
I still have the golf because I like how it looks and drives, does everything I need a car to do  :cool:

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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #8 on: 31 October 2010, 18:29 »
What is the model of your Volkswagen?

1988 golf mk2 syncro GL

Why did you purchase this particular model?

because i like them,  they have a lot of hidden tallent in the handeling department compared to a GTi

What modifications have you carried out to your car?

LOTS  
ABF 2.0 16v conversion,  G60 syncro passat gearbox, 280mm frount brakes, rear disk conversion with 239's from golf rallye. striped out interior, removed much soundproofing and underseal, lowerd and uprated suspention ( bilstine b8's frount, spax coilovers rear ) home made 4-2-1 tubular manifold,  ABF rad and fans, sillicone hoses, ms2 and ITB's    

What modifications would you like to carry out to your car?

finish nut and bolt rebuild, paint a really bright gash colour,  extend lower ball joints and flip track rods to inprove suspention geometry, adjustable top mounts,  bit more power than it had before,  LSD in the frount, lighter frount brake calipers, lighten the shell more, GRP or carbon bonnet wings and doors possobly roof skin, better supention on the rear  

Do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?

nether, My car is a TOY part of playing with it is uprateing or renginnering parts to increase peformance and handeling

What is the underlying ethos of Volkswagen ownership to you? Why?

good question.  origianly it was because i liked the build quality and the engineering  

Has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of Volkswagen?

mk2 golf

What to you, is the most important aspect of being involved with an owners club?

erm depends on the owners club,  more emotivation to stop slacking about inside and get in workshop and ether finish own car or help someone else get theres done, helping each other on builds vastly speeds things up and muchly helps motivation

Do you feel owning a Volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? If so, please specify in what way.

I don't drive my golf daily i dought i chould now as it's not really practical or economical anymore and spends most of it's time in bits of couse it's a lifestyle choice as ther is no essential reason i own it other than to play about with it
all the VW's have gone bar 1.

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Re: Scene vs Herd. A discussion.
« Reply #9 on: 31 October 2010, 19:18 »
What model is your volkswagen?
its a 3 door 1995 mk3 golf match 1.4 enigne code ABD.

why did you purchase this particular model?
ive always liked german cars, got it from my dad and when he seen the car in local classifieds he bought it for me to fix (head gasket had blown) when i was 15 and it would be my first car now.

what modifications have you carried out on your car?
first changed the wheels to some tsw razors (dont laugh, they were cheap and had good tyres lol) got gti bumpers and smoothed the front one, shaved badge and rear wiper and fitted new head unit and speakers, oh and i retrimmed the boot with a city scene carpet thing ><.

what modifications would you like to carry out on your car?
lower it, sort out a decent sub build in the boot, leather interior with buckets up front, (maybe) vento front end or joey modded gti headlights, engine swap for a 2.0 16v ABF lump, all red rear lights, decent brake set up, sort out the imperfections in the paint and the few bits of rust, new steering wheel, suede and leather wrap some interior plastics and the headlining, maybe a show cage, just get it to show standards oh and my dream wheels, Borbet type A's with a little "twist" ;).

do you see your car as mainly a form of creative remodeling or performance enhancement?
at the moment 100% styling as im 17 and cant really go making it faster until my insurance drops.

what is the underlying ethos of owning a volkswagen to you? why?
well for sure has to be the community, the friendlyness, diversity and friendly/helpfulness, i mean you can get a 18 year old in a mk2 slammed on its nuts over some nice dished wheels, a mk5 driven by a father of 2 on some audi 17's and air ride and a 60 year old guy in a concourse splitscreen all meeting together, helping each other out and getting along all because of 1 brand, but it doesnt stop there, you have the 18 year old going off with his retro water cooled buddies, the father of 2 with his new school crew and the 60 year old going off with the air ride finatics. and ive always been into german cars, btut hey are generally too big and costly except for the little vw's that just go and go and go until they break but then you ahve the fun of fixing and improving the car.

has there been a specific car that has influenced you with the choice of volkswagen?
not really one car, but all the awesome cars you see grace the covers of magazines and the almost celebrity status you can get with a reputation for building decent cars and winning awards, basically we do all want to be famous or make it to the top and have people know your name in some way or another, i cant sing, dance, or act so i choose modifying my car as a way to get me noticed.

what to you is the most important part of being in an owners club?
whether it be a single make, single model or a general car club there is always the sense of being a team and everyone will look after everyone else, like football teams, you dont know the guy next to you but you celebrate goals together, if u trip over he will help u up, all ebcause you support the same team and you share the same pride and dedication to what you believe in.

do you feel owning a volkswagen is a lifestyle choice? if so, please specify in what way
depends who you ask, i mean some people can buy a car to just take them from A to B and they wont bother doing anything to the car or attending meets or anything, but other people like me (im not selling my car until i get atleast 1 magsine feature) and probably most people on the forum are die-hard dubbers and spend most of their spare time with their cars or doing something related to their cars.

hope this helps you dude, good luck with your dissertion