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Offline lemski

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Re: project neg
« Reply #190 on: 29 November 2010, 20:19 »
Get a new rad mate. Seems easier. Or drill the old bolt out mate

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Re: project neg
« Reply #191 on: 09 December 2010, 18:21 »
Well did some work for a mate today. And instead of getting 20 quid. Got me some mint subaru imprezza bucket seats. I think that's a bonus. Pics tomorow. And then need to buils some subframes up

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Re: project neg
« Reply #192 on: 11 December 2010, 13:15 »
I'm building my seats up. Pic heavy so people can see how its done. Should b sorted soon if I can get the mk2 runners fitted today.
As I said pics later

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Re: project neg
« Reply #193 on: 11 December 2010, 18:39 »
i didnt quite get round to sorting both seats or owt as it was too cold but am going to my grandads tomorow so i will have at least one seat. 1stly is the seat i have shreadded up.

this seast is now only the bottom metal bit with the runners> the part with the runners is getting cut off tomorrow and brackets to make it fit the subaru seats i know have> than it will all fit into the mk2.
now these are the subaru seats which cost me fixing a mates car.

i rekon they will suit quite well when in. going to buy some red or black harnesses after cristmas and strip out the rear fully (again)
cheers liam

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Re: project neg
« Reply #194 on: 11 December 2010, 19:18 »
They are going to look spot on mate. Have a chat with diamondhell about harnesses though. Apparently they are not as safe as a seatbelt unless you have them strapped onto a harness bar. Can't remember the details but he will fill you in.

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Re: project neg
« Reply #195 on: 11 December 2010, 20:04 »
Okay mate I will do. I was going to put a bar in ne way eventually. Now bad for nowt Is it?

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Re: project neg
« Reply #196 on: 11 December 2010, 21:43 »
Not bad at all dude

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Re: project neg
« Reply #197 on: 12 December 2010, 13:46 »
Do like these, are they the seats from that scubby up the road from you?


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Re: project neg
« Reply #198 on: 12 December 2010, 15:26 »
Nah dif scooby mate

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Re: project neg
« Reply #199 on: 12 December 2010, 17:03 »
Have a chat with diamondhell about harnesses though. Apparently they are not as safe as a seatbelt unless you have them strapped onto a harness bar.

While fitting in some random Subaru seats, using the original seat mounts isn't a terrible idea, it will need to be done carefully, to ensure what you're doing is strong enough that it won't collapse in an impact.  How confident are you in your welding?  It has to be properly done, not bird sh*t-stylee rubbish.

Unless you are competent and getting sufficient heat into your welds and penetration making up your own seat-mounts isn't something to be undertaken lightly...... it would be a shame to see some sort of Darwin-esque incident involving your Golf and the deletion of a small number of IQ points from the gene pool.

As for the harnesses, really you need 5/6 point, including a crutch strap and for them to be properly effective they need to be tight enough that you can't move about comfortably in normal road driving.  If you can then I'll wager the set up you have won't retain you any better than a factory 3-point belt.

If you're going to replace your 3-point belts you need a minimum of 3" shoulder straps.  If you go for 4-point harnesses to go with those seats (because there's no crutch strap hole, because they're designed for use with a 3-point belt) then be aware you're at risk of submarining down under the harness, doing a lot of damage to your back especially if it's not properly tightened, because you're 'just driving about on the road'. 

You've also got to ask yourself 'what will happen with the shoulder straps in an accident?' because those seats are designed to be used with a 3-point belt, not a harness.  The shoulder straps should really be as short as possible and secured within an angle of 0-10 degrees downwards from your shoulders.  Is the hole in the seat even designed to accept a harness? I doubt it very much, because - here we are again - they're not designed for harness use.

So, you have a single threaded hole on the outside of the car, which is designed to accept the waist strap on the outer side, but the inner seatbelt mount (the clip) is mounted on the seat frame on the original set up, so when you slide the seat forwards and backwards the whole fixed harness will twist across your body and need substantial adjustment to ensure it's correct whenever the seat is moved.

You'll need to weld a spreader plate on the underside of the tunnel (not the inside) to secure the inner waist strap mounts.

Now what of the shoulder straps?  You've got nothing to use in the rear, have you?  The top mounts for the rear seats are miles away and off-centre, so you'll be dragged across in an impact.  The bottom mounts are way outside the maximum 45 degree angle downwards, plus if you use them, on an impact, as the seats aren't designed to take a downwards force on impact the back rest, the harnesses are going to pull down on your spine and crush it - yay back problems for you.  Your only option is to fit a 'proper' harness bar - tubing of the correct diameter across the rear turrets, with appropriate spreader plates to stop it tearing out on an impact.

Even suggesting you could use a strut brace to mount your straps to is utterly laughable.  It's designed to stiffen the car, not take any form of impact.  You'd be a complete moron to ever contemplate using one as a mount.

So, possibly a little more work than you're expecting and something that is not going to be comfortable, or sensible in a day to day car.

You'd be far better off retaining the standard 3-point belt and getting one of these for enthusiastic driving.
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