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Offline Mudweasel

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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #20 on: 11 October 2010, 22:31 »
Its one of those things just like mobile phones if its broke then they will fix it but don't have to loan you a phone in the meantime, if you are paying for a car on finance it's no different to someone who paid 'cash' for it, we would love to have dozens of courtesy cars but dealers don't and there is only a certain amount they can do for a customer. I know that if you had bought it from me I would lend you my demo but it's all about having a relationship with your local dealer if that doesn't exsist then you will getting nothing above the norm.



I take your point, to some extent, but it's a bit different to a mobile - I can live without a mobile phone without it actually costing me money. Through no fault of my own, I will have to cough up for a hire car... and that just doesn't seem right.

Anyway, clearly I am wrong, so I'll just accept that VW can do it their own way and I shouldn't expect anything else. As I said, patience isn't my strongest attribute.

Maybe I would have had a better relationship with Wayside if they had actually returned my phone calls and answered my emails after I had taken a GTI out for a test drive. They didn't and in the end I went somewhere else to buy mine after being all set to sign on the dotted line with them... relationships work both ways, you know.
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Offline evo1986

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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #21 on: 11 October 2010, 22:55 »
A bit of a side step but what car are you driving now EVO1986 since the GTD has gone?

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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #22 on: 11 October 2010, 23:04 »
VW Dealers should go for some training by Toyota, Mazda and Honda.
Their arrogance and ignorance is simply incredible. Customer care? Pah.

I don't think it is brand specific but rather, dealer specific.
I am still waiting for the Mazda main dealer to contact me regarding rust around all 4 wheel arches of a car those was only 2 years old when it first started.
How long have I been waiting on this warranty work? 18 months.
To make matters worse they originally fixed the rust, telling me they replaced all 4 wings (after having the car for 4 weeks)
Lying gits only painted over the rust and it came back within 6 months.

Anyway I'm way off topic. I agree with Evo. I don't think VW are obliged to provide a courtesy car. Yeah the garage that sold you the car might do that to keep good customer service but unfortunately the OP's car never went back to the selling garage.
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Offline evo1986

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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #23 on: 11 October 2010, 23:05 »
You are not wrong just unlucky a good two way relationship with a local dealer has it's perks as people who have one will know. I would tell everyone if you don't hear back from your local dealer to speak directly to the man at the top our dp is an absolute work horse and the thought of getting a bollocking is frightening enough, it all comes from the top if the dp can't be arsed them the sales guys will feel likewise. Boils my piss hearing about sh!te dealers.
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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #24 on: 11 October 2010, 23:48 »
No dealer is obliged to provide a courtesy car it is a option, a few around here don't even have courtesy cars now.

Good luck with getting it sorted.

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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #25 on: 12 October 2010, 11:34 »
It's sad to hear that your car packed up just ouside of warranty and I agree you should push VW for a loan car or you'll never get one, but why does everyone think that VW should provide him with free transport? After all, it's his car and as such his responsibility, not VW's.

i dont think it is outside of warranty

Quite correct - it's well inside warranty.

Mac7 - As for why VW should provide a courtesy car, my reasoning is as follows;

1. They provide a courtesy car for routine servicing, providing that you give enough notice. Clearly, I couldn't give such notice, as I didn't appreciate just how unreliable VW cars can be...

2. Yes, it's my car and my responsibility. However, I am still paying VW for that car and yet I can't drive it, due mainly to the fact that a fault has developed which VW cannot work out what it is and cannot put right in a short timescale.

Note, I was not really moaning that it had gone wrong, these things happen, but I do feel that when they do go wrong, the manufacturers (and their dealer networks) could do more to try to keep their customers happier. I am not asking for VW to provide me with 'free transport', merely asking them to provide me with a working car... don't understand why that isn't a fair request???
1. Bit of a sweeping statement there mudweasel, I know you're upset, but don't think most VW's are unreliable.
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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #26 on: 12 October 2010, 11:54 »
VWs are sold on the basis of, amongst other things, their reliability.  If only their dealerships could be so highly regarded.

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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #27 on: 12 October 2010, 12:42 »
I'd imagine Snoopy would have an opinion on the set-up who currently have your car ...


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Offline Mudweasel

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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #28 on: 12 October 2010, 13:57 »
It's sad to hear that your car packed up just ouside of warranty and I agree you should push VW for a loan car or you'll never get one, but why does everyone think that VW should provide him with free transport? After all, it's his car and as such his responsibility, not VW's.

i dont think it is outside of warranty

Quite correct - it's well inside warranty.

Mac7 - As for why VW should provide a courtesy car, my reasoning is as follows;

1. They provide a courtesy car for routine servicing, providing that you give enough notice. Clearly, I couldn't give such notice, as I didn't appreciate just how unreliable VW cars can be...

2. Yes, it's my car and my responsibility. However, I am still paying VW for that car and yet I can't drive it, due mainly to the fact that a fault has developed which VW cannot work out what it is and cannot put right in a short timescale.

Note, I was not really moaning that it had gone wrong, these things happen, but I do feel that when they do go wrong, the manufacturers (and their dealer networks) could do more to try to keep their customers happier. I am not asking for VW to provide me with 'free transport', merely asking them to provide me with a working car... don't understand why that isn't a fair request???
1. Bit of a sweeping statement there mudweasel, I know you're upset, but don't think most VW's are unreliable.

Ok, I'll re-phrase - Clearly, I couldn't give such notice as I didn't appreciate just how unreliable my VW car would be. Mere semantics, as the gist is the same... if I'd known the car was going to break down, then I could have given them as much notice as required to secure a courtesy car.

Anyway, the point is now moot, as Wayside, in fairness to them, have bent over backwards this morning to get me a car, for which I am grateful and have expressed as such to both the service team and the DP, who intervened.

In some ways, this thread has turned into something that I never really intended - my original post was more about me letting off a bit of steam/frustration at the whole situation in general, not necessarily pointing fingers at dealers and arguing whether or not they should provide a car. It is frustration that a) the car has gone wrong in the first place, b) they still don't know what's wrong with it (not their fault, but still frustrating), c) that I am going to be without my beloved GTI for God knows how long and d) that at the time of the original post, I was going to be totally car-less from tomorrow afternoon, or out of pocket for something that wasn't my fault (thankfully, now resolved).

Still no news on my car - which, quite frankly, is all I care about...
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Re: Just over a year old and it's died...
« Reply #29 on: 12 October 2010, 17:55 »
I also don't have a good experience with the Wayside Group full stop. On it's one and only service so far, they didn't manage to put enough oil back in, meaning it was below minimum and the light came on within 24 hours of me driving away. When I went back and complained, it seems as though the mechanic had programmed the amount of oil to put in as it was a different model of Golf, not the GTI and it came up way short. Not much of an apology, either, but that was resolved later on...
So what your saying is the dipstick did not check the dipstick.  :angry: Not good the light came on as thats for pressure not level.
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