What makes it worse is the fact that these people willl probably be putting them on there car , meaning they are part of the watercooled thing , saddens me that these kind of people are associated with what is one of the best "families" that love there cars , id understand it at "maxpower live" coz the only people i know that read it are chavs , but not a VW event or someones car , worse thing is you cant protect your car , my mate ended up inside for 6 months because he kicked 3 shades of S**T out of some lad he caught half way through the window of his 350BHP sunny GTI-R . (tho intensive car for 3 days and hospital for 2 weeks was a bit far you can see what im getting at)