Scirocco better made then a Golf?

[am1w]

Thanks Exonian. Most grateful for your support.

It's interesting how unnecessary and unprovoked personal attacks just for posting a perfectly innocent thread is proof what is so endemically wrong with our society.

I feel it is essential to maintain high quality standards either through discussion or practical means.

But it feels, sometimes, that one has perpetrated some sort of heinous crime for which only capital punishment will suffice.

Anyway, each to their own. 

[andykram]

I feel very able to comment on this thread cos I fell out with VW after the 2 awful Mk4s I had. I bought them after having several Vauxhalls thinking I was buying a more upmarket, better quality brand/car and they were ten times worse. And the dealers were utterly unable to fix the things that went wrong.
So, yes, I agree that VW are living on past reputation.
But, and it's a big but, that supposed reputation is exactly the reason I bought my GTi and not the VXR which I also liked. Because of this supposed reputation for quality the general public is prepared to pay a lot more for the cars and, therefore, the resale price is much higher than Vauxhall. So as a private buyer it ultimately made more financial sense to get the Golf over the VXR as it'll be cheaper in the long run. We all benefit from this "reputation" in this way even though we know from experience it's not always true.
We also know that true engineering integrity has been discussed countless times on general forums and the general consensus is that Japanese makes are best. Even then, you could end up with a dog so I'm just enjoying this GTi at the moment, even with its odd creak, cos it's a fantastic car to drive (and, when I come to sell it, to own as somebody will no doubt pay me a fortune for it).

[am1w]

Great post Andykram.

[jdjd]

Hmmmmm.................. That comment makes me laugh. How many 6+ Year old Jap cars do you see driving about? Not that many apart from afew banged up old subaru's that have had countless rebuilds.

 KIA ( koreans ) seem to lead the way in build quality. They dish out an 100,000 mile / 7year Warrenty. I carn't see them doing that if the car wasn't reliable.

  

[jdjd]

To attack this thread further. I hear the Scirocco is made in spain. Whilst the golf in germany.
 I also have the fortune to have regular access to both. And anybody that says the Scirocco is better built is having a laugh. The foglight fell out on my dads recently. The interior is just poor in comparison. Its had several problems which has required a refit at dealers. Door seals etc..

[am1w]

Scirocco is made in Portugal.

[am1w]

To attack this thread further. I hear the Scirocco is made in spain. Whilst the golf in germany.
 I also have the fortune to have regular access to both. And anybody that says the Scirocco is better built is having a laugh. The foglight fell out on my dads recently. The interior is just poor in comparison. Its had several problems which has required a refit at dealers. Door seals etc..

It is good read your comments. Most helpful and illuminating.
However, I cannot quite understand and find it very strange why you consider your perfectly valid comments as an 'attack'.

[R32UK]

SO what was this thread about again??? VW being poor quality?? The golf being worse than the Roc? or the poor quality of service from VWCS??
 

Good morning Gilly.

Answer:
I have come to the conclusion that the Scirocco is better made than the Golf.

After examining numerous versions of these cars, the panel fit and paint finish on the Scirocco is much better in comparison.

Nearly every Golf I have examined seems to have a badly aligned bonnet and front bumper plus badly hung doors. (Worse on the 5 door. I had to have all my doors re-aligned). Some also have deformed rear bumpers in the number plate area (like mine used to).

What do you think?

 

The responses have been more forthcoming than I envisaged.

I have posted my comments on the rocco before, in short i dont like it. So i very rarely pay them much attention. Judging by the number I see on the road I would say most people opt for the golf over the Rocco.

So could it simply be that they are struggling to produce the golf in the numbers required.. whilst the rocco staff are twiddling their thumbs all day once they have finished production??

[R32UK]

As for Gilly, you only lease your car so I'm not surprised you don't give two hoots about how it looks day to day, especially if your employer pays for all or a large part of that lease. I especially see where you're coming from when I consider all of the things you've said you've had happen to it 

tis true.. i dont really care about the car that much as it will end up VW's problem again at some point. I judge a car on its ability to deliver. As a daily driver the golf doesnt do much wrong.. Good economy when in traffic, good performance when required, can fit most items in when required, and looks good.

Thats about all i require from a car... for me its a work horse that is there to serve a purpose, and i will judge the car when it comes to the end of its life with me. Had a few problems with it so far.. nothing too serious, but in my book its already behind the mk5 R32 i used to have. 30k I did in that and it never missed a breath.


p.s. i am my employer 

[am1w]

I have posted my comments on the rocco before, in short i dont like it. So i very rarely pay them much attention. Judging by the number I see on the road I would say most people opt for the golf over the Rocco.
So could it simply be that they are struggling to produce the golf in the numbers required.. whilst the rocco staff are twiddling their thumbs all day once they have finished production??

The thought had crossed my mind. It's the best seller Europe-wise I understand.

I also am not a fan of the Scirocco. The rear end is revolting IMO and the 'A' Pillars are so thick, that I nearly had an accident on the test drive! Besides, I need 4 doors for obvious reasons.

I will love my Golf even more after this Wednesday once the two-tone effect at the rear has been sorted.