Scirocco better made then a Golf?

[am1w]

Believe me Steve, sh!t is better. I'll stay home all weekend as I just cannot bring myself to drive it.
On Monday they will give me a newish Polo.

[Snoopy]

Wow love some of the replies on this thread  
I guess the ones that came over from BMWs to VWs are still about.
I think all am1w is asking is how about VW build cars to the QC standards they did the mk2 golf or to the level they have a reputation for and advertise at!. Mk2's were 18 years ago it should get better not worse.
I was happy with our 2005 SEAT build, fit and finish quality i did not expect 2010 VWs to be far far far far worse and have mager cost cutting just 5 years later when its suppose to be the more superior brand that they charge a much higher premium for. . Hell my 1998 SEAT suffered the corroding Ronal wheels and squeeking door rubbers, not alot changed there then . Unlike alot of you lot, my family, extended family and myself all own/owned loads of VW/Audis since the late 70s and from the mid 90s also SEATs many different models and regular changing models. I look after them all! So i know how things have changed.
To then say its all in the drive what a f**king load of b0llocks that is, to base a car buying on that is just stupid and ignorant, but then i guess they were the people who bought peugeot 205 GTI models in the 80s because they are so stupid to beleive the motoring press are not biased, not given specially prepped cars, or the writers have a clue what there talking about when it comes to engineering. Nowadays give some brain dead paper pusher a touchy feeling top of a dashboard, in direct eye sight non shiny plastics and they are stupid enough to beleive thats quality, people just don't have a clue.

[am1w]

Exactly, exactly Snoops.
What we get and what we expect from VW are very different things. They are unfairly riding on the reputation of build quality for their past cars like the Mk2 Golf.
I hate being cheated, especially when it involves a sizable amount of money.

It's probably because we are both 'old fashioned' engineers by training (I am at least) and involved with quality control issues, that we find it so difficult to stomach this cost cutting. Our lone voices will probably never be heard in the greedy Corporate noise.

Just because these morons can use a pc and navigate a mouse, they think they are engineers and have the required knowledge. P!sses me off no end.

It seems that real depth of engineering is a thing of the past wrt the VW brand.

[Steve30]

I woudn't pay almost 30 grand on a motor just for drivabilty ether , the car needs to be brilliant all round , looks , shape , engine, tyres, gearbox,handling, power, cabin, paintwork, alloy wheels. This is what I look for when buyng a new car, and thats why I bought the GTD a great package. VW standards have most defintly gone down hill over the past 18 months esp VWCS what a joke they are then there's some dealerships who just want your money then dont give a flying F*** when it comes to warrenty issues!!

[am1w]

Steve: I totally agree with both you and Snoops.

All I was trying to do with this hread was to highlight quality issues and start a discussion.

I got attacked by certain members for this. How sad and stupid. I thought that's what a forum was for!

[MAW73]

You've taken some very unfair stick on this thread. Your right to expect quality right the way though the car. If VW wants to stand out from the likes of Ford, Mazda and Vauxhalls etc then it needs to up its game in this area.

GTI's are iconic cars. I love mine and would buy another one tomorrow, I just hope VW don't rest on their laurels and go spoil it.

[am1w]

Thanks MAW.
Glad you are back.
Unnecessary stick from ignorant fools.

[R32UK]

SO what was this thread about again??? VW being poor quality?? The golf being worse than the Roc? or the poor quality of service from VWCS??

 

[am1w]

SO what was this thread about again??? VW being poor quality?? The golf being worse than the Roc? or the poor quality of service from VWCS??
 

Good morning Gilly.

Answer:
I have come to the conclusion that the Scirocco is better made than the Golf.

After examining numerous versions of these cars, the panel fit and paint finish on the Scirocco is much better in comparison.

Nearly every Golf I have examined seems to have a badly aligned bonnet and front bumper plus badly hung doors. (Worse on the 5 door. I had to have all my doors re-aligned). Some also have deformed rear bumpers in the number plate area (like mine used to).

What do you think?

 

The responses have been more forthcoming than I envisaged.

[Exonian]

As above Asker, don't take it all to heart. It's mostly another example of the ones who arrive on here once in a blue moon to stir up trouble before vanishing back to other parts of the forum.
Most of these people own older VAG stuff. Older VAG stuff is usually better than older non VAG stuff of similar vintage subject to it not having been abused, so their view is somewhat different to a person who has shelled out nearly £30k of his own cash on something that is advertised as pretty much a premium quality product. If VW are going to charge premium money (keeping in mind some Golfs are dearer than their Audi equivalents and SEAT/Skoda versions are much, much cheaper) they should provide a premium service.
My message to those sh!t stirrers would be that the new cars owned by people on this forum now will be the second hand bargains you will be buying in a few years time. So just how well would you like your 5 year old VW to have been looked after by it's first couple of owners?

As for Gilly, you only lease your car so I'm not surprised you don't give two hoots about how it looks day to day, especially if your employer pays for all or a large part of that lease. I especially see where you're coming from when I consider all of the things you've said you've had happen to it