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Offline AdamBeevers

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easy power gains from gti 16v
« on: 19 September 2010, 11:01 »
Hi there people , i will soon be the owner of a mk3 16v, and was wandering what the cheapish easy power gains are? iv heard with not too much money you can squeeze about 170 bhp out of these no problem , so was wandering what the best mods were? things like chip, air filter etc, and what are the best makes? cheers. Adam.

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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #1 on: 19 September 2010, 11:17 »
Please try a search, i've lost count of how many of these threads there are already  :lipsrsealed:

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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #2 on: 19 September 2010, 11:49 »
1. Go to a powerflow dealer get a custom made stainless exhaust done and fitted from catback this will set you back £320-£400 depending on which dealer you go to. (You can fit as many silencers as you want, I got 3 on mine and its still nice n loud when I floor it)

2. Get an after market air filter. Cheapest thing for you to do, is drill your current airbox and have a fresh filter on it. (Cost you approx £20) However, what ive done is, got a K&N Air Filter, made a direct air feed straight to it, from the grille at the bottom and then fitted a stainless heat shield over it to absorb engine heat, while the air feed provides cold air. Approx cost £80-100

3. Get 10mm Spark Leads, I bought mine from FuelCat ... Google the brand, the website doesn't look that great and they don't stock them on the site, but you can contact the guy directly. This cost me £60-70 and have lasted 2 years already with no problems.

4. Change your dizzy/rotor arm (£15-25), and get new spark plugs (£10-20 set of 4), doesnt have to be anything fancy like Denso Iridiums just something decent brand, i.e. NGK, Bosch.

5. Oil, filter change.

6. Lower the car on Springs/Uprated Shocks ... or Coilovers, up to you. Any brand thats German should suffice.

Thats all i'd do really, and you will notice a BIG change from standard. I know its a bit naughty for me to say this, but my mechanic friend, he has a stock 16v and both of us went for a test down a empty dual carriageway, and floored it to about 135-140 and I was ahead of him by 4-5 car lengths with all those mods.

Don't forget the mods look good cosmetically aswell. A lowered car with polished stainless pipes looks good!

Then you can get a pair of nice wheels at the right price when your bothered.




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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #3 on: 19 September 2010, 17:41 »
All those things will net you a lot of noise and only 2-3 BHP...at best.
There are no mythical gains to be had from the 16v...no quick '+10BHP' tweaks....if you really want to tune it, perpare to did deep.

If you want 170 BHP it's going to cost you...165ish fairly easily (£1000)
170-175 another £1000-1500 on top...
190ish another £1000 on top...
200+ another £2000 on top again...
210+ another £2000 on top again.

How far do you want to go?

Or, you can lighten the flywheel for a couple of hundered quid fitted and have the car feel like you've added 20+ BHP
Change the gearing at the same time...and it'll feel like you've added 40 BHP...and work out FAR cheaper than actually adding 40 BHP.

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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #4 on: 19 September 2010, 17:52 »
All those things will net you a lot of noise and only 2-3 BHP...at best.
There are no mythical gains to be had from the 16v...no quick '+10BHP' tweaks....if you really want to tune it, perpare to did deep.

If you want 170 BHP it's going to cost you...165ish fairly easily (£1000)
170-175 another £1000-1500 on top...
190ish another £1000 on top...
200+ another £2000 on top again...
210+ another £2000 on top again.

How far do you want to go?

Or, you can lighten the flywheel for a couple of hundered quid fitted and have the car feel like you've added 20+ BHP
Change the gearing at the same time...and it'll feel like you've added 40 BHP...and work out FAR cheaper than actually adding 40 BHP.

Ess_Three I know you specialise in 16v's, but do you know if a lightened flywheel will make an 8v feel much quicker? Also how light can you go?

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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #5 on: 19 September 2010, 18:13 »

Ess_Three I know you specialise in 16v's, but do you know if a lightened flywheel will make an 8v feel much quicker? Also how light can you go?

It always helps...8v uses the O2O which is lighter than the 16v/VR6 flywheel anyway, and can go much lighter.
I'm not sure how light...but approx half the weight it is now, I'd say. I can't give you weights though, sorry.
It'll feel like adding 15-20 BHP!

The other option for the 8v is to find a closer spaced or lower geared gearbox, as IIRC my old 8v was long of gear.

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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #6 on: 19 September 2010, 22:16 »
Your best first bet will be to get the car running right, a good service and sort out any issues.

As Ess Three says it will cost you a lot of cash to get serious real gains so unless your in for the long term it will be very expensive.

Sort out the handling and the brakes and you will get from A to B quicker than by just adding horsepower without the handling.

A lightened flywheel makes a huge differance to the acceleration and pick up as does lightening the car. Lightweight wheels also improve the acceleration and handling, one or two kgs off of each wheel make a serious differance.

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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #7 on: 19 September 2010, 22:21 »


Ess_Three I know you specialise in 16v's, but do you know if a lightened flywheel will make an 8v feel much quicker? Also how light can you go?
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Standard 020 flywheel weight is 5.5 kgs and you can go down to about 3.2 kgs safely.

Just over 2kgs off the rotational mass will make a noticeable differance.

Paul

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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #8 on: 19 September 2010, 22:30 »
CAM!/s  :laugh:

How much top end will you use in the realworld? Asbeen said above if you do mods to make a to b quicker you'll enjoy driving it more anyway
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Re: easy power gains from gti 16v
« Reply #9 on: 19 September 2010, 22:41 »


Ess_Three I know you specialise in 16v's, but do you know if a lightened flywheel will make an 8v feel much quicker? Also how light can you go?
Standard 020 flywheel weight is 5.5 kgs and you can go down to about 3.2 kgs safely.

Just over 2kgs off the rotational mass will make a noticeable differance.

Paul
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