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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #20 on: 03 September 2010, 05:06 »
but in actual fact ALL THREE ARE THE SAME f**kING CAR
You been on the sauce?
The Scirocco has quite a different chassis and driving position to a Golf.
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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #21 on: 03 September 2010, 08:19 »
but in actual fact ALL THREE ARE THE SAME f**kING CAR
You been on the sauce?
The Scirocco has quite a different chassis and driving position to a Golf.


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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #22 on: 03 September 2010, 11:00 »
but in actual fact ALL THREE ARE THE SAME f**kING CAR
You been on the sauce?
The Scirocco has quite a different chassis and driving position to a Golf.


Scirroco TSI also has the old 2litre engine from the MarkV
The first reply (exonian) is more less true,
The second reply (Spartacus) is not. It has the newer TSI engine the same as the mk6 golf GTI and has always done just at first in a different tune.
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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #23 on: 03 September 2010, 11:37 »
You been on the sauce?
The Scirocco has quite a different chassis and driving position to a Golf.


This is true...a shared platform, but different chassis.
They are not the same thing.



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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #24 on: 03 September 2010, 13:10 »
Well I think I am the only one on here who has owned both so i'll give you my opinion. I had a Scirocco 2.0TSI for a year and 10,000 miles before the Mk 6 GTI that has now covered 20,000.

Scirocco: Looks cool and funky, for a while, then it really loses the appeal.
GTI: Looks classically sporty and I still love the look.

Everyday use:
Scirocco low slung slabby doors make getting in and out and tight car park spaces difficult, rear view I really didn't have a problem with and my two kids loved the back of the Scirocco but felt a little claustrophobic on longer journeys.
5dr Golf obviously wins here!

Quality and spec: Scirocco not made in Germany but still good quality, not as good as Golf and missing the little luxuries/necessities such as bonnet strut, interior of Scirocco is a bit drab and leather quality mediocre but I have cloth on the golf so cannot compare.

Drive: Now this is where it all counts surely?? Well when I first drove the GTI I was underwhelmed in comparison to the well run in Scirocco but after a while I began to realise the subtle differences and I now think the Golf a better car to drive. The Scirocco suffered from massive torque steer when on the gas and overtaking for example and understeered hugely even in it's standard output. My Golf is Revo'd and delivers the power in a much more precise and controlled manner. The Golf is a better drive, end of in my book.

Looks: Some people love the look of the Roc but any car that needs lowering before you even get it out of the showroom should hang its head in shame in my view.


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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #25 on: 03 September 2010, 13:48 »
Well I think I am the only one on here who has owned both so i'll give you my opinion. I had a Scirocco 2.0TSI for a year and 10,000 miles before the Mk 6 GTI that has now covered 20,000.

Scirocco: Looks cool and funky, for a while, then it really loses the appeal.
GTI: Looks classically sporty and I still love the look.

Everyday use:
Scirocco low slung slabby doors make getting in and out and tight car park spaces difficult, rear view I really didn't have a problem with and my two kids loved the back of the Scirocco but felt a little claustrophobic on longer journeys.
5dr Golf obviously wins here!

Quality and spec: Scirocco not made in Germany but still good quality, not as good as Golf and missing the little luxuries/necessities such as bonnet strut, interior of Scirocco is a bit drab and leather quality mediocre but I have cloth on the golf so cannot compare.

Drive: Now this is where it all counts surely?? Well when I first drove the GTI I was underwhelmed in comparison to the well run in Scirocco but after a while I began to realise the subtle differences and I now think the Golf a better car to drive. The Scirocco suffered from massive torque steer when on the gas and overtaking for example and understeered hugely even in it's standard output. My Golf is Revo'd and delivers the power in a much more precise and controlled manner. The Golf is a better drive, end of in my book.

Looks: Some people love the look of the Roc but any car that needs lowering before you even get it out of the showroom should hang its head in shame in my view.



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Good post Gossa, a balanced if not slightly biased review from someone who's actually owned both cars. It all makes sense to me. Rocco's are a no no for me, purely cause of the getting the little man in and out ( and I mean the baby by the way in the sig. )  :grin:



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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #26 on: 03 September 2010, 15:57 »
The 'Roc has an extremely ugly arse, unnecessarily thick 'A' pillars, has only 2 doors, is too low, the doors are too long, the boot is tiny, the view out of the rear window is awful, has a dated dash, is very cramped in the back and I don't like it.

That's why a bought a 5 door Golf GTi. :smiley:
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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #27 on: 03 September 2010, 16:17 »
The 'Roc has an extremely ugly arse, unnecessarily thick 'A' pillars, has only 2 doors, is too low, the doors are too long, the boot is tiny, the view out of the rear window is awful, has a dated dash, is very cramped in the back and I don't like it.

That's why a bought a 5 door Golf GTi. :smiley:

I'm of a similar opinion...
I need something I can throw spare wheels, rear beams, TVs, bikes etc in...so a 5 door makes it easier.
The 'rocco isn't a pretty car in my book (very subjective, I know) and not as easy to live with as a GTI..so I'd rather pay more and have a GTI.

I also find the 'rocco very colour sensitive.
White looks good...and, er, after that...Hmm...

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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #28 on: 03 September 2010, 16:55 »
I like the Rocco R in the 'R' blue  :smiley:

I bought my GTI without even looking at the Rocco because I was drawn by the pedigree of the GTI badge. I have however had a few chances to look at the Rocco's now.

1. The boot is tiny and funny shaped compared to the GTI.
2. I use my 5 seats quite regularly.
3. I was disappointed that the Rocco didn't have the updated dash from the mk6.
4. Things like the mirror adjust are in hard to reach places behind the triangular door handles - think its a bit of design before practicality.
5. Looks great from the front but poor from the back.
6. No individuality between models.

Apart from that I think the Rocco is a great car. My friend is looking at buying one and I would him encourage him to get it. He likes the build quality of my GTI, the DSG and the engine - but he wants something that looks just a little sharper. Is that not what VW built the Rocco for?

I just prefer the GTI because it's more my cup of tea.  :smiley:


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Re: The Scirocco - Have you driven one?
« Reply #29 on: 03 September 2010, 17:51 »
I like the look of the Scirocco, but there is something about it I really don't like.
The big bum doesn't offend me too much - its the square shaped front wheel arches!
No matter how low it is, it still doesn't look right because of the shape of the wheel arches.  The Roc R has 'Sports suspension' - but you could still accidently import an immigrant who was hiding in those arches!!

I was almost sold on a Roc R until the Golf R was announced.  The missing middle rear seat, awkward shaped boot, and limited rear headroom put me off a bit.  Plus the 4wd on the Golf made it an easy decision. 
The Roc R has the same interior as a MK6 Golf - and no doubt they'll start putting that into all the Rocs soon?
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