ABF 2.0 woohoo!

[fishnchipsx2]

...So given that 9As are less vulnerable to detonation... wouldn't it be nice to heavily skim one, running on standalone, for some nice high-compression action?

[VeeDubGTI16v]

Or if you have a duff batch of fuel.....

Or it's funny weather......

Or if the metering head gets clouted.....

Or if the dizzi moves......

Hell, why not just run a set of carbs and be done with it, eh? 

clutching at straws there aren't you

what if you fart whilst filling the fuel up and contaminate it? will that make it run lean as well? 

its not for everyone, you do need an understanding of how to turn an allen key, sometimes you even need to turn said allen key ANTI clockwise  its a tough skill

p.s. calling it a fuel misting system is actually a compliment    

[Diamond Hell]

I notice you're ignoring all the rest of the intelligent discussion, which is something you struggle to involve yourself in for obvious reasons.

And I fail to see how I'm clutching at straws - those are valid changing parameters that can cause the K-Jet system to knacker an engine.

The Digi3 system would protect the engine under these circumstances.  K-jet would not.  It would fail, as outlined previously.

Crawl back to your cave, luddite.

[emery1990]

How much have you got too spend then?

K-jet is dog ( thats why im swapping mine!!) swap it to digi or ms if you've got the money.

[VeeDubGTI16v]

I notice you're ignoring all the rest of the intelligent discussion, which is something you struggle to involve yourself in for obvious reasons.

And I fail to see how I'm clutching at straws - those are valid changing parameters that can cause the K-Jet system to knacker an engine.

The Digi3 system would protect the engine under these circumstances.  K-jet would not.  It would fail, as outlined previously.

Crawl back to your cave, luddite.

i'm focusing on you because i object to your sh!tty attitude and it irritates me. kjet is a viable option and just because your too thick to know how it works you shouldn't spout your crap 24/7 on here. your viable options btw-

duff fuel - will affect any car (remember tescos fiasco?)

funny weather - i assume you mean hot weather, i had no problem at combe when it was 27degrees

metering head gets clouted - if you clout a number of engine components you will have issues idiot

dizzy moves - why would the dizzy move? or does this relate to your inability to use an allen key?

[Diamond Hell]

Possibly the issue is that I know how K-jet works and how Digi3 works.

You don't have alot of knowledge outside K-jet, do you?

duff fuel - Digi pulls the timing back and protects the engine

funny weather - hot or cold.  K-jet has no way of protecting the engine again and will need adjusting summer vs winter.  A single example of you being OK is purely annecdotal evidence. 

metering head gets clouted - mechanical components are far more prone to fail than solid state items. K-jet is full of mechanical stuff that will go wrong and wear out before solid state electronic items.

dizzy moves - The dizzi has the capacity to move on a K-jet motor, so it can move through vibration/bolts not being done up tight enough - there are many options.  It does not on digi3, as the sparks are controlled electronically.  On some K-jet set ups there is a vacuum diaphragm (mechanical again).  If this fails the spark won't advance so the motor won't perform.

Here are the options I've come across that can lead an ABF on Digi3 to fail destructively:

An injector fails and a cylinder runs lean.

Obviously there will be other circumstances under which an ABF could fail, but none that I or others I know have experienced.  This is because of the protection afforded to the engine by the Digi3 system.

There are a number of other circumstances under which the motor can fail to run, but these are all non-destructive - as an example - failure of crank sensor - the engine stops running.

K-jet on the other hand - in 10 years I've seen quite a number of engines fail destructively for a variety of reasons, mostly mechanical failure caused by fueling problems.  Because there isn't in-built protection the unit continues in the destructive condition until it fails.

I suspect this sort of rational explanation and reasoning is just going to irritate you more.  Maybe you should try driving a Digi3 ABF?

[VeeDubGTI16v]

yes i do actually, stop assuming things, it may even be more knowledge than someone as important as yourself has (though i doubt such a person exists in your head)

its not annecdotal evidence, its one example of many. just like the NigeP example is that you use so often.

the metering head getting hit and the dizzy moving are not reasons not to own kjet to anyone with common sense, and duff fuel is a very rare occurence, one that i have not experienced in 10 yrs of driving, so that can also be ignored. the settings can be tweaked like you say for hot and cold weather.

digi may be a better option but thats not the argument, kjet is a viable option so change the record

[Diamond Hell]

K-jet will run the car, but won't run it as well or as consistently or as protectively as Digi3.

It is a poor option.

If you like the poor option, you go for it, but when faced with the considerably superior alternative why would you promote the less reliable, more likely to fail option?  Digi3 isn't hard to get hooked up.  It's only a few wires.

Promoting the inferior alternative for some reason like 'wiring's a bit hard' would make you a luddite.

[fishnchipsx2]

digi may be a better option..... kjet is a viable option

[VeeDubGTI16v]

K-jet will run the car, but won't run it as well or as consistently or as protectively as Digi3.

It is a poor option.

If you like the poor option, you go for it, but when faced with the considerably superior alternative why would you promote the less reliable, more likely to fail option?  Digi3 isn't hard to get hooked up.  It's only a few wires.

Promoting the inferior alternative for some reason like 'wiring's a bit hard' would make you a luddite.

its a good job thats not my reasoning then, isn't it.

if you still think digi is vastly superior, after all that has been said then you are retarded, simple as that.

remember you didn't even need the help of kjet to blow one of your motors up, so i would argue the ability of the mechanic is more important than the injection system in keeping an engine alive