Poor start to GTi Life !!

[ansGTI]

I did some more digging today about the fact my engine howls when the revs are up (as well as all the other bloody symptoms I have) and came across this thread suggesting (again) that the PCV valve has failed:

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-94977.html

Did you say that when VW replaced your PCV that they fitted the 'G' version? From what I've read you need to replace other parts with this for it to work effectively:

http://oooo-a3.blogspot.com/2006/11/crankcase-breather-supplemental.html

Can anyone shed some light on replacing the PCV valve with OEM parts - Do I go for a 'G' or get an 'F' ?

06F 129 101 G (one checkvalve) or F (two checkvalves) New breather ('PCV') valve
06F 103 215 A New pipe with checkvalve
06F 103 483 E Gasket
06F 145 757 F Gasket

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3573586-PCV-Valve-E-vs.-F

http://oooo-a3.blogspot.com/2008/03/pcv-replacement-and-eurojet-valve.html

I think we should have an F on our car unless we replace the rear breather to include a check valve

 

[iwilkins]

I did read someone they we're all way up to L !! To be honest it's more than likely they've fitted the G to mine and either it should be the F or they've not bothered with the extra pipes required....

I have decided to give the stealers one last crack at fixing my little list of issue's.  If it comes back broken this time i'll be discussing with the Director of the branch i bought it from and returning......

My starting has been worse rather than better in the last two days, not sure why that is but the cam kit seems to have made it worse not better  .  I now get 350 rpm (was 400rpm) cough splutter then it jumps to 1100.  Only time it started 'well' was the first morning after i got it back.

I'm convinced it's nothing major with the engine as it runs sweet as a nut once moving.  All these silly modern electrics Didn't have this crap in the Mk2

[ansGTI]

Funny you should mention that, my cold starts are worse rather than better as well but my car definitely feels down on power as well as the lumpy idle and howl when I hit 6K. I started my car to leave work this evening and I turned the key for it to feel like it was catching but when I released the key it just stalled - you get to know how long to hold the key when starting a car, any longer and the starter motor just runs on.

Anyway this sums things up much better than I ever could - taken from http://www.mkv-gti.net/wiki/index.php?title=PCV_valve_failure

  Another fix

"The new OEM "G" version of the PCV valve only has ONE check-valve in it. The one check-valve is a beefier valve to replace the one between the intake and valvecover. The second check-valve (between the turbo and valvecover) was moved to the hose between the turbo and valvecover." [vwvortex]

To do this fix, you will need the following OEM parts:

    * 06F 129 101 G New breather ('PCV') valve
    * 06F 103 215 A New pipe with checkvalve
    * 06F 103 483 E Gasket

Yours may still have trouble starting as you need the rear hose replacing too - maybe worth printing the above out and asking the tech to check.

[iwilkins]

Well after all the messing about and 10-11 weeks of pure agony and terrible driving experience it's going back !

Now the question is do i get another ED30 a standard GTI or do a runner and get a Focus ST.

Probably the wrong place to ask that question your all bias .  Opinions welcome plese guys

[ansGTI]

Well I'm going to give my local stealers one more try and fixing my cold start stutter. I started it last night and it was the worst it's been so drove it straight to the stealers. 

Once it turned over it spluttered at 400rpm for a second or two before rising up to 1100rpm. I have a vibration at idle as well felt through the car so I'm wondering if one of my injectors is the problem but I reckon they'll just call me up saying "we can't fault the car".

Asking them to check fuel pressure and then a compression check as well as the other basics - I can't beleive a problem like this is so difficult to pin point - it's either spark/fuel/air or compression.

[ansGTI]

Well small update from the stealers - VW technical have been in touch and want some measuring block data, namely block 032 I believe.

They think they can pinpoint an injector problem by measuring this block - can anyone explain to me if this is true please?

[iwilkins]

Starting mine is getting worse and worse to be honest now mate.

Started it this morning and it was 300 rpm dropped to 200 !! then skipped to 350, 300 then started and spiked up to 1100 where it should be.

Deffo something wrong and i'm glad i'm not going to have to deal with it for much longer tbh.

I do hope you get yours sorted asap and with any luck the compression test will reveal some results.

[musicman87]

Well after all the messing about and 10-11 weeks of pure agony and terrible driving experience it's going back !

Now the question is do i get another ED30 a standard GTI or do a runner and get a Focus ST.

Probably the wrong place to ask that question your all bias .  Opinions welcome plese guys

Here comes an opinion.

Focus ST - Great car, i always wind down the window when one drives past to listen to the gorgeous noise they make! I've heard they're pretty thirsty and you can't get the drivers seat as low as some might want it, but i've never sat in one so i couldn't confirm if this is true or not. Colour choice is critical, in white, blue or that daft orange colour i think they're a bit chavvy, but in darker colours like black or grey they look really smart, but are they a little bit of a chav's car??

Golf GTI - Much more classy and sophisticated, and they seem (from my limited ownership experience of a 5 year old, 60k car) to do everything well. Comfortable but will go like a stabbed rat on a b-road, and i get an average of 31.5mpg from mine. Personally, i think the golf is a better all rounder and the one i would pick out of the two.

Wildcard option would be a Megane 230 F1? Supposed to be better to drive than all of them although i've never driven one so i couldn't tell. They rave about them in EVO magazine, what i would class to be the fountain of all knowledge!

[iwilkins]

Thanks Musicman.

I Agree the Focus is a little on the Chavy side and I'd be going for the Black or Grey colours anyway, wouldn't be seen dead in an Orange one that's for sure !

I might check out the megane actually i'd not thought of it tbh.  The rear end is a bit of a marmite thing but i kinda like it.  Problem is missus hates it, but she's not driving it

If all else fails i may just ask the dealer to find me another ED30 that's not broken.  I do like the car just cba with the hassle !!  Maybe a manual with few miles to bring the cost down a bit..

[ansGTI]

Mine is manual - intrested? I'll do you a good deal lol.

To be honest I'd hope the compression check (if one is required) comes back OK as it may point to a failed head gasket or a piston ring. At the moment VW technical want data from measuring block 32, and possibly a few others.

I really hope they find the problem and my 'warranty' covers it as at the moment, without a repair-recommendation I'm liable for diagnostic costs which is a fecking joke.