Author Topic: All The Cars We Left Behind Today  (Read 7026 times)

Offline PenguinGTI

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,038
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #20 on: 01 July 2010, 14:42 »
But I'll also add that having fun on the road is simply that... you can never tell if the other guy is driving it to the same level you are. If you are that good a driver that you can keep up with a faster car then that's the answer...

for example GTI vs EVO... if the guy driving the GTI is good enough and knows the road well enough to have a go at the EVO and win then it does not mean the GTI is faster or equal to the Evo on that bit of road. Stick the driver of the GTI in the Evo and I'm sure he would be able to shake someone in a GTI behind him.

That having been said though I do find these cars like Evo's and Impreza's are a tad overrated now. They were fast in the 90's but modern day hot hatches have been developed so much that in 90% of situations they can match the 4wd Turbocharged Jap saloons.

I was chatting to a guy with a Subaru WRX 2007 model. The WRX level Subaru comes with around 240 hp from it's turbocharged engine. By comparison the STI comes with around 300 so the WRX is the closest in terms of power to a modern hot hatch. We were discussing mapping options. He said that a map on his Impreza only took his car to 260hp and that with a map, intake, exhaust and FMIC he was getting just under 300hp.

With a stage 1 map on a GTI you can be pushing 270hp. Which coming from a quoted 207bhp is an increase of 63bhp?

And it's not just VW either... a Focus RS can be mapped from 300hp to 350hp pretty easily. The amount of cash European manufacturer's can throw into developing the engines is soon going to outpace the Jap cars who have only been turning the boost up on each successive model.

Offline ErikGTI

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 736
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #21 on: 01 July 2010, 15:31 »
...I myself finds it less complicated....Lights green 2 cars hit the pedal and the difference is there in seconds...that is all to it.. :evil:

Last week a Scirocco tried me.....on the highway...it was most likely not the "R" because actually he was no game at all... :smug:
I'LL BEAT YOU TO THE BBC STUDIO........

Offline PenguinGTI

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,038
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #22 on: 01 July 2010, 16:07 »
LMAO was it a Scirocco Diesel? They always seem to try it on - the petrol ones seem to know how to behave but the diesel roccos are always after me.

Offline ErikGTI

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 736
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #23 on: 02 July 2010, 13:15 »
I don't know but the Scirocco was a black beauty I must admit  :cool:

Since traffic was dense and I could not get past a Mini in front of me (Scirocco behind me), the Scirocco swirled 3 lanes to the right behind me and floored it...unfortunately for him I spotted that action quickly, so I overtook the Mini in front of me.....(I admit on the wrong side :embarassed: :evil:) a stupid Mini "S" doing 100 km per hour on the fast lane  :sick:....and before the Mini in front of me knew what was happening I was in front.
Now the Scirocco and the GTI we both had a clear road in front of us...perfect for a shoot out.....but within seconds I was simply a size too big for him...(even without a remap I would still have beaten him I guess). :cool:
I'LL BEAT YOU TO THE BBC STUDIO........

Offline PenguinGTI

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,038
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #24 on: 03 July 2010, 00:59 »
That is one thing I am sorely going to miss about the Golf. The VAG engines have so much power available.


Booooooost!!!!!!!

he he

Offline JulesS3

  • GTI forum regular
  • ***
  • Posts: 184
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #25 on: 03 July 2010, 09:27 »
I left a Golf R wondering if he should have saved a few grand and bought the same car with an Audi badge. Once in 3rd i left him behind. He was a 10 plate though so i doubt he was fully trying!

Offline am1w

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,544
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #26 on: 03 July 2010, 10:00 »
Emptied as wrong thread! Dizzy me! :rolleyes:
RED TORNADO 7R, 5 DR, DSG, DCC, DNS, DYNAUDIO, KI, WP, HBA, LN, SP

Offline Keithuk

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 837
Re: All The Cars We Left Behind Today
« Reply #27 on: 03 July 2010, 15:53 »
A 1993 Rover 216 GTi which I had for 16 years. I had no trouble apart from two ignition modules. The first one packed up 5 years ago 1/4 mile from work so I towed it in and fixed it. After that I thought I would join the RAC, I'm a motor vehicle technician but I'm not a magician. The second one was last year again 1/4 from work so the RAC towed me back to work and I fixed it again. After that I bought a module and kept it in the toolkit, I still have it today if anyone wants one.  :wink:
2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.