All the fuss about the 8V...

[kells]

yeah swift is the same, ultra thin metal, lean on it gently and it will dent...

[AudiA8Quattro]

VR's are fast, if you find a good one 

[danny_p]

intresting regarding who makes the better engines i think it depends what goal posts you decide to use.

VW motors are quite long lived but have a long stroke / bore ratio   so generaly speacking they are ALL very good at makeing torque, they are also supriseingly efficent. but long stroke forces a relativly low redline and reduces avalible area for valves in cyl head

jap motors are long lived and tend to go for short stroke big bore. meaning they have loads of area in the head for valves and the short strok emeans piston speed isn't a problem when it comes to revs,   so they can  rev, but they don't tend to make as much torque so you have to rev them. tay do have the small rev mosters down to a fine art.

[dhorsfall2000]

i got 16Vs - just spread across 2 cars 

thats pretty funny that, nice one

I got a mk4 2.0 8v Gti, its pretty fast round the streets and can live with my mates a4 2.0t 220bhp,
and will do 120 on motorway all day long, and will probably not let me down at all (breaking down)

i did want a 150bhp tdi golf, and still do though, loads more tuning potential.

[dom]

i got 16Vs - just spread across 2 cars 

I got a mk4 2.0 8v Gti, its pretty fast round the streets and can live with my mates a4 2.0t 220bhp,
and will do 120 on motorway all day long, and will probably not let me down at all (breaking down)

I'm sorry mate but thats absolute bull crap! There is no way your 2.slow would keep up with an A4 that can hit 60 in less than 7 seconds! 

As for not breaking down.....give it time