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Offline Jimp

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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #60 on: 21 June 2010, 21:02 »
I love mk3s. My favourite VW by far. They are under-appreciated in the UK for some reason (cue tug boat jokes).
Not low enough mk5
Not on the road enough mk3

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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #61 on: 21 June 2010, 21:14 »
Your still forgetting that a vr6 is quick, for a car of its time  :grin:

Certainly alot quicker than an 8v anyway  :laugh:

Nice cast - got them nibbling already  :grin:

Did alright didnt i  :grin:

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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #62 on: 21 June 2010, 21:15 »
I pay 700.00 ish for my mk2 16v and that's about to come down dramatically when i switch insurer from adrian flux to bell. 330.00 fully comp :grin:

Just wondered where the extra 100kg comes from between the 8v and 16v mk3? didn't think the ABF would weigh that much more?


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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #63 on: 21 June 2010, 21:26 »
not quick for its time really, Rs turbos R5 turbos, Swift GTI.s list goes on, will all hammer a VR on the streets, maybe not right up on top end but certainly in a street race you would struggle in a VR

but yes, faster than a 8v, but with 3 timkes the fuel costs too  :laugh:

8v mk3 is approx 36mpg and vr6 mk3 is about 32mpg (officially at least, missed the autocar bit earlier). more power to weight = engine under less load = not that bad on fuel.

besides how many Rs turbos R5 turbos, Swift GTI.s etc do you see on the road in comparison to vr6s. not to mention how many of those original engines are still working fine at hmmmm say 170,000 miles  :kiss:

yeh sure the vr6 is by no means efficient regarding power output to cylinder capacity ratio, almost a bit agricultural for my liking but they sound nicer and have more useable mid range power than the 16v mk3

but hey im biased so slate me  :tongue:
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I don't think a semi will give the same results

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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #64 on: 21 June 2010, 21:31 »
not quick for its time really, Rs turbos R5 turbos, Swift GTI.s list goes on, will all hammer a VR on the streets, maybe not right up on top end but certainly in a street race you would struggle in a VR

but yes, faster than a 8v, but with 3 timkes the fuel costs too  :laugh:

8v mk3 is approx 36mpg and vr6 mk3 is about 32mpg (officially at least). more power to weight = engine under less load = not that bad on fuel.

besides how many Rs turbos R5 turbos, Swift GTI.s etc do you see on the road in comparison to vr6s. not to mention how many of those original engines are still working fine at hmmmm say 170,000 miles  :kiss:

yeh sure the vr6 is by no means efficient regarding power output to cylinder capacity ratio, almost a bit agricultural for my liking but they sound nicer and have more useable mid range power than the 16v mk3

but hey im biased so slate me  :tongue:

Nope as your talking sense.  :smiley:

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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #65 on: 21 June 2010, 22:05 »
id say with the vr6 id noticed more consumption than my two 16v mk3's goings same sort of speeds and acceleration, not had a 8v yet only a 1.68v and that werent great on fuel as was ragged so expect why 8v is lower on consumtion as is worked harder. teh vr6 is to thirsty i think for the acceleration etc

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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #66 on: 22 June 2010, 01:32 »
R5 GT turbos  are massive amounts of fun ,,,,,   they do go bang quite often tho
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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #67 on: 22 June 2010, 14:23 »
R5 GT turbos  are massive amounts of fun ,,,,,   they do go bang quite often tho

I had a simple 1.4 R5 bought to get me around, taxed and MOT 12months 100.00 :shocked:

Most reliable car I've ever owned.  :lipsrsealed:


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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #68 on: 22 June 2010, 17:49 »




besides how many Rs turbos R5 turbos, Swift GTI.s etc do you see on the road in comparison to vr6s. not to mention how many of those original engines are still working fine at hmmmm say 170,000 miles  :kiss:



a valid point but their is alot of these cars still about with owners like us lot on here..and the engines in anything JAP are far better than those in VAG  :wink:

that said, these cars cant compair on build quality of the VW, my mk 3 feels like its built like a tank..

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Re: All the fuss about the 8V...
« Reply #69 on: 22 June 2010, 18:31 »




besides how many Rs turbos R5 turbos, Swift GTI.s etc do you see on the road in comparison to vr6s. not to mention how many of those original engines are still working fine at hmmmm say 170,000 miles  :kiss:



a valid point but their is alot of these cars still about with owners like us lot on here..and the engines in anything JAP are far better than those in VAG  :wink:

that said, these cars cant compair on build quality of the VW, my mk 3 feels like its built like a tank..

I remember my old mk2 and my mates 205 were both in the shop at the same time. Comparing the wings off the cars was hilarious. The 205's was wobbling all over the place and you could almost read through it and the mk2 was fairly inflexible even without evn being bolted to the car. 2mm Jahman steel.

You don't own a Mk2, you support it.