Author Topic: Catch can fitting - pipework question - ANSWERED!  (Read 1769 times)

Offline Waffs1984

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OK so i'm trying to fit my cach can this eve with no sucess (mainly due to the stupid hose i ordered which is going to have to go in the bin!) but what confused me is this;

Following the guide over on ukmkiv's, it doesn't say what to do with the small bore pipe that comes out of the smaller y part of the suction jet pump and (on my car at least) then feeds up to the small bore inlet on the TIP via the metal pipe that is bolted to the rocker cover near one of the mounting points for the engine cover (in red on the diagram);



Anybody know what to do with this pipe/inlet on the TIP - do i simply block it?

Cheers,

Matt.
« Last Edit: 18 June 2010, 09:48 by Waffs1984 »
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Re: Catch can fitting - pipework Question?
« Reply #1 on: 18 June 2010, 09:45 »
OK so i had a trawl through the thread over on ukmkiv's and read everyones comments/problems on the guide and near the end (typical!) someone had asked the same as me, so for reference this is the answer to my own question  :grin: ;

The early AUM's have the PCV valve connected into the SJP pipe work which subsequently feeds into the second brake booster.

The later AUM's (like mine) have the PCV system and SJP system completely separate. I have TWO vacuum source ports on the bottom of the manifold near the dipstick, one for each system. In way of explanation;

The PCV pipework goes from the top of the oil filter housing (plastic 90deg bend) and to the PCV valve t-piece. From here the top hose goes to one of the manifold vacuum ports, the right hose (as you look at the car) goes up to the y-shaped breather on the rocker cover.

The SJP pipework goes from the second vacuum port to the single sided inlet of the SJP. The larger outlet of the y-split goes up through the manifold to the second brake booster inlet. The small bore outlet on the y-split of the SJP goes up past the FPR and into a hard metal pipe which is bolted to the rocker cover and then into a small port on the TIP.

I have a Forge TIP fitted and IIRC this is the difference between the AUM's and AGU's etc - the extra port. Apparently what i do is simply block it off and get rid of the separate SJP system. What a guy over on ukmkiv's did is to run a vacuum source to one of the ports direct from the top of the DV, this way eliminating the need to t-piece into the FPR vacuum line when modding the N249/N112 bypass. I think what i'll do is simply block off both ports on the manifold and the small bore one on the TIP (in picture above) and run the catch can pipework as per the guide.

HTH some people in the future - i'll try to get a picture of my PCV and SJP systems to clear this up.

Cheers,

Matt.
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Re: Catch can fitting - pipework question - ANSWERED!
« Reply #2 on: 18 June 2010, 10:30 »
Yeah I've just found out mine's one of the ones that goes manifold => SJP => PCV valve when I thought it was manifold => PCV. Not sure exactly where I'm leaking boost from but I've ordered a new PCV valve for starters and while I have everything in bits I'll hopefully find any obvious leaks. All I have to do then is fit my 007P, replace my iffy N75 and get Mr Clutch to sort whatever they did wrong replacing my cambelt and it's plain sailing....
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Re: Catch can fitting - pipework question - ANSWERED!
« Reply #3 on: 18 June 2010, 10:51 »
Sounds like a fair list there buddy! Well i got my PCV system off lastnight, left the SJP as i was confused but now i know what to do i'll get that off the car aswell. All around my PCV valve there was a thick layer of oily crap so i'm guessing that's where my issue was coming from  :angry: Will be so much happier to get shot of it all!
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Re: Catch can fitting - pipework question - ANSWERED!
« Reply #4 on: 18 June 2010, 11:30 »
Yeah, should keep me busy over the weekend that's for sure. Trying to confirm the part number for SJP with VW now, with them it shows up as for an AGU automatic. Ho hum....
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Re: Catch can fitting - pipework question - ANSWERED!
« Reply #5 on: 18 June 2010, 23:38 »
Where did you get the catch can ? Is there a place in uk ?