No Tuning For 2010 GTIs? *REVO now loaded :-)*

[p3asa]

At the end of the day it is Illegal to change the code on a ecu without the consent of the producers, same as chipping a playstation or changing a mobile phones IME.

Nick

Its illegal to change the code? Never knew that.
On what grounds would or could they do you on?
Fair enough if you have hire purchase with VW so technically they still owned the car but if you finance elsewhere or pay outright then surely it is your car to do with what you want?!

Is it illegal to chip a playstation? Granted its illegal to use pirated software on it but I'm not sure its actually illegal to chip it.
Loads of businesses openly advertise they will chip your console as do loads of businesses advertise they will flash your ecu.

[dTEA]

Chipping consoles is not illegal as you actually own the hardware... The difference is when you run bootleg games that you don't own the rights too via full legit purchase...remeber tha these were advertised ad backups...the only time code is illegal to mess with is when you use someone elses copyrighted code. Ie a Hyundai running VAG engine management. Altering said code and hardware is big business and altering it if it was illegal would mean APR RTECH, REVO et al would be jailed and bankrupt surely?

[RTechUK]

Chipping consoles is not illegal as you actually own the hardware... The difference is when you run bootleg games that you don't own the rights too via full legit purchase...remeber tha these were advertised ad backups...the only time code is illegal to mess with is when you use someone elses copyrighted code. Ie a Hyundai running VAG engine management. Altering said code and hardware is big business and altering it if it was illegal would mean APR RTECH, REVO et al would be jailed and bankrupt surely?

As far as I know to Change copywrite software / firmware / intellectual property you need to have permission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modding

Nick

[p3asa]

Nick you may well be right and I'm not belittling your knowledge but the credentials of wikipedia means nothing as anyone can write stuff / alter stuff on there.

You obviously work for a remapping company, do you ask permission from VW, Audi, BMW or Ford before remapping their cars?
I doubt it very much. So going by your logic you are committing a crime so why haven't the big manufacturers shut you and other remappers down?

If a customer owns the car I can't see how any manufacturer could intervene.

[R32UK]

When you buy a car you can make whatever mods you like. You have paid for the car and the software that it comes with. You would only be breaking the law or having to seek permission if you were selling the software as your own.

[am1w]

When you buy a car you can make whatever mods you like. You have paid for the car and the software that it comes with. You would only be breaking the law or having to seek permission if you were selling the software as your own.

I quite agree. But VW can be real fcukers sometimes and refuse to do remedial work with all sorts of excuses. Thankfully, I know my way around with my beautiful Warranty Manager. She is really quite a looker and very smart and effecient. I have even made her blush! So I am not too worried!

[GolfTi]

Some VW dealers are still offering the VW Racing (Superchips) remap with exhaust and suspension upgrades.

How?

[dTEA]

By allowing superchips access to the write software keys no doubt

[GolfTi]

Does this mean bluefin will still work for post Nov cars?

[am1w]

Does this mean bluefin will still work for post Nov cars?

Now this will be a turn up for the books!
Can't wait to find out.