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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #20 on: 20 April 2010, 22:38 »
The 17s are also the faster wheels as shown by evo magazine  :evil:

How come? :huh:
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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #21 on: 21 April 2010, 09:29 »
I tried to explain but couldnt put what I had in my head into words so used the internet to explain lol:

"When tires bounce, a given amount of suspension hardware can put them back  in contact with the road quicker if they have low mass. So smaller tires should give better handling. It is not always engines pushing tires.  Often tires push engines back so smaller wheels have less angular inertia and less torque when skidding so they present less threat of damaging the power-train metal parts."

TBH its going to be really MINIMAL ;)

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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #22 on: 21 April 2010, 09:47 »
AlanD:
Thanks.
What confused me was the word 'faster' as in speed. It is used here often for 'better', I now realise. Silly me.
I agree totally that lighter and narrower wheels and tyres are 'faster' - better ride, handling, steering. The bigger wheels are mainly a look thing and also seem to be more noisy at speed! Am I right? :smiley:
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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #23 on: 21 April 2010, 09:54 »
Noise really depends on tyres more than anything but bigger wheels will give you a "harsher" ride.

I went from 17s to 18s on my MK5 and didnt notice even the slightest bit of diffrence . . . I think a lot of it is a placebo effect imo.

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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #24 on: 21 April 2010, 10:02 »
Noise really depends on tyres more than anything but bigger wheels will give you a "harsher" ride.
I went from 17s to 18s on my MK5 and didnt notice even the slightest bit of diffrence . . . I think a lot of it is a placebo effect imo.

+1. So many things seem to be! :smiley:
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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #25 on: 21 April 2010, 11:03 »
I went from 18" Monzas to 17" Monzas between my rejected Mark 6 GTI and the new replacement GTI.

The ride quality on the 17"s is far superior and I talk from experience.

They also look mint against DBP paintwork, but not so sure if they work as well visually on the other colours :wink:

The 18"s are purely a vanity thing.  When you are driving the car, who cares  :laugh:

And if you kerb them, much less of an issue.

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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #26 on: 21 April 2010, 11:07 »
I went from 18" Monzas to 17" Monzas between my rejected Mark 6 GTI and the new replacement GTI.
The ride quality on the 17"s is far superior and I talk from experience.
They also look mint against DBP paintwork, but not so sure if they work as well visually on the other colours :wink:
The 18"s are purely a vanity thing.  When you are driving the car, who cares  :laugh:
And if you kerb them, much less of an issue.

True, true, true.
That is why I got ACC with the 18" Shodows as I was a bit concerned with the ride on terrible London roads.
However, even in 'Sport mode', the ride is superb!
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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #27 on: 21 April 2010, 12:54 »
I went from 18" Monzas to 17" Monzas between my rejected Mark 6 GTI and the new replacement GTI.

The ride quality on the 17"s is far superior and I talk from experience.
Its not far superior at all.

They also look mint against DBP paintwork, but not so sure if they work as well visually on the other colours :wink:
They dont look mint, maybe they might do if you lower the car about 10cm as the wheel arch gap makes them look like polo mints

The 18"s are purely a vanity thing.  When you are driving the car, who cares  :laugh:
If its a vanity thing, why did you pick the colour of car you drive ? When your driving the car, who cares ?

And if you kerb them, much less of an issue.
In what way ?


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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #28 on: 21 April 2010, 13:13 »

The ride quality on the 17"s is far superior and I talk from experience.
Its not far superior at all.

They also look mint against DBP paintwork, but not so sure if they work as well visually on the other colours :wink:
They dont look mint, maybe they might do if you lower the car about 10cm as the wheel arch gap makes them look like polo mints
They look ordinary

The 18"s are purely a vanity thing.  When you are driving the car, who cares  :laugh:
If its a vanity thing, why did you pick the colour of car you drive ? When your driving the car, who cares ?
If you are not into style get yourself a Dacia Logan

And if you kerb them, much less of an issue.
In what way ?
So you are admitting you are a bad driver
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Re: Second thoughts about Monza Shadows
« Reply #29 on: 21 April 2010, 13:15 »
Kev is spot on imo.